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CCP Games Announces Former EA Executive Sean Decker as Senior Vice President

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Minister of Death
Colossus Enterprises
#781 - 2013-07-05 23:21:51 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
There is plenty of stuff to do with Eve


Maybe they can fix their launcher.

Wait, it's CCP...
Zacoros Tandar
Doomheim
#782 - 2013-07-06 00:39:36 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Brainless Bimbo wrote:
What function in the real world will he have?, produce long term strategy?, maximise short term profit?


Eve has plenty of room for micro transactions, dual training was one of them but more and moe are possible without braking the game or bring PTW stuff on nex/what-the-heck-name or anywhere else in Eve.

There is plenty of stuff to do with Eve, including open eyes to close minded people who think game market strategies apply RL.


NO, no no, there is NO room in EvE for micro/macro-transactions. We pay a subscription fee, that should be enough. If you are ok with micro/macro-transactions, then let's see some Titans, super strong shield boosters, warp scrambler immunity mods.. etc on the cash shop... then see you like it.

Unless EvE goes free-to-play/buy-to-play there is NO PLACE for any kind of cash shop.
Adunh Slavy
#783 - 2013-07-06 00:41:22 UTC
Zacoros Tandar wrote:


NO, no no, there is NO room in EvE for micro/macro-transactions.



I think he was refering to things like dual training?

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Bob Blunts
#784 - 2013-07-06 03:33:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Bob Blunts
Hey Sean,

Welcome to the community. I'm going to reserve my judgement on you until I see what you're up to here. Couple of quick things though:

1. EvE is LITERALLY the last bastion of intelligent gameplay on the MMO market. It is a living breathing work of art, and the community is VERY attached to it. Us older players have nowhere else to go, so we are pretty fierce to defend our online home.

2. Remember Sean, EvE is like a really classy lady. She doesn't PLAY 4 FREE, and you can't PAY 2 WIN.

Please don't wreck our game, thanks!
Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club
#785 - 2013-07-06 09:00:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Cap Tyrian
Bob Blunts wrote:
Hey Sean,

Welcome to the community. I'm going to reserve my judgement on you until I see what you're up to here. Couple of quick things though:

1. EvE is LITERALLY the last bastion of intelligent gameplay on the MMO market. It is a living breathing work of art, and the community is VERY attached to it. Us older players have nowhere else to go, so we are pretty fierce to defend our online home.

2. Remember Sean, EvE is like a really classy lady. She doesn't PLAY 4 FREE, and you can't PAY 2 WIN.

Please don't wreck our game, thanks!


Best post so far !

Give the man some Thumbs Up.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#786 - 2013-07-06 09:20:49 UTC
Zacoros Tandar wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Brainless Bimbo wrote:
What function in the real world will he have?, produce long term strategy?, maximise short term profit?


Eve has plenty of room for micro transactions, dual training was one of them but more and moe are possible without braking the game or bring PTW stuff on nex/what-the-heck-name or anywhere else in Eve.

There is plenty of stuff to do with Eve, including open eyes to close minded people who think game market strategies apply RL.


NO, no no, there is NO room in EvE for micro/macro-transactions. We pay a subscription fee, that should be enough. If you are ok with micro/macro-transactions, then let's see some Titans, super strong shield boosters, warp scrambler immunity mods.. etc on the cash shop... then see you like it.

Unless EvE goes free-to-play/buy-to-play there is NO PLACE for any kind of cash shop.



Somebody pays my subscription fee, I don't know who nor do I care as long as they pay.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#787 - 2013-07-06 09:31:53 UTC
Zacoros Tandar wrote:
Unless EvE goes free-to-play/buy-to-play there is NO PLACE for any kind of cash shop.


Well, Blizzard is putting in a cash shop in the game, which players can buy an 100% XP booster (which on top of BoA gear) will make plowing to level 90 a breeze.

Big fuss about it at the WoW forums -- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9377319765

It's creeping even in WoW. The last bastion of the subscription only games.

Adding item malls into games should be considered a crime, since it's bypassing gambling laws (which this becomes). A subscription you're budgeting yourself in a game that can be very addictive as playing poker or the slots in Las Vegas. Add a cash shop to it, it becomes an UNREGULATED gambling casino.

It's under the radar now since whoever is using it has very few players. WoW has over 50% of all the MMO players. That'll draw the attention of politicians who just love taxes, and all the regulation that follows (like relooking at taxes online in general).

Some things just need to be buried for the sake of gaming. We don't need politicians coming over dictating how we play, as now there's even more money they can line their coffers with.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#788 - 2013-07-06 09:33:17 UTC
THERE IZ NO ROOM IN EVE FOR ANY TRANSACTIONS.

CCP MONEYPENNY PLS SAVE US.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#789 - 2013-07-06 17:17:38 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Zacoros Tandar wrote:
Unless EvE goes free-to-play/buy-to-play there is NO PLACE for any kind of cash shop.


Well, Blizzard is putting in a cash shop in the game, which players can buy an 100% XP booster (which on top of BoA gear) will make plowing to level 90 a breeze.

Big fuss about it at the WoW forums -- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9377319765

It's creeping even in WoW. The last bastion of the subscription only games.

Adding item malls into games should be considered a crime, since it's bypassing gambling laws (which this becomes). A subscription you're budgeting yourself in a game that can be very addictive as playing poker or the slots in Las Vegas. Add a cash shop to it, it becomes an UNREGULATED gambling casino.

It's under the radar now since whoever is using it has very few players. WoW has over 50% of all the MMO players. That'll draw the attention of politicians who just love taxes, and all the regulation that follows (like relooking at taxes online in general).

Some things just need to be buried for the sake of gaming. We don't need politicians coming over dictating how we play, as now there's even more money they can line their coffers with.

WoW is not the "last bastion" of subscription only, and it sure as hell doesnt have "50% of all the MMO players", both of those statements are so highly exaggerated that your entire post loses merit.
Nerriana
Avanto
Hole Control
#790 - 2013-07-06 19:29:13 UTC
Bob Blunts wrote:
Hey Sean,

Welcome to the community. I'm going to reserve my judgement on you until I see what you're up to here. Couple of quick things though:

1. EvE is LITERALLY the last bastion of intelligent gameplay on the MMO market. It is a living breathing work of art, and the community is VERY attached to it. Us older players have nowhere else to go, so we are pretty fierce to defend our online home.

2. Remember Sean, EvE is like a really classy lady. She doesn't PLAY 4 FREE, and you can't PAY 2 WIN.

Please don't wreck our game, thanks!


Amen. I find hiring a former EA exec with this sort of background ...worrying. I do hope Sean will shake off bad habits and F2P-centric ideology that may have stuck from EA and becomes an asset for CCP, but I don't think I'm alone in saying that we'll be watching future developments carefully.
Josef Djugashvilis
#791 - 2013-07-06 19:49:06 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Zacoros Tandar wrote:
Unless EvE goes free-to-play/buy-to-play there is NO PLACE for any kind of cash shop.


Well, Blizzard is putting in a cash shop in the game, which players can buy an 100% XP booster (which on top of BoA gear) will make plowing to level 90 a breeze.

Big fuss about it at the WoW forums -- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9377319765

It's creeping even in WoW. The last bastion of the subscription only games.

Adding item malls into games should be considered a crime, since it's bypassing gambling laws (which this becomes). A subscription you're budgeting yourself in a game that can be very addictive as playing poker or the slots in Las Vegas. Add a cash shop to it, it becomes an UNREGULATED gambling casino.

It's under the radar now since whoever is using it has very few players. WoW has over 50% of all the MMO players. That'll draw the attention of politicians who just love taxes, and all the regulation that follows (like relooking at taxes online in general).

Some things just need to be buried for the sake of gaming. We don't need politicians coming over dictating how we play, as now there's even more money they can line their coffers with.


Again, you are rabbiting on about some other game.

This is an Eve Online forum.

Please respect that.

This is not a signature.
Jimmy Morane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#792 - 2013-07-06 19:51:38 UTC
Miilla wrote:
PopeUrban wrote:
Well I'll say this:

He DID stop working at EA.

*shrug*




Or did he, somebody check his share filings on the SEC :)


Yep, that's why I dubbed him CCP Awoxer on that other thread about what his ccp name would be.

Trust, but verify.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#793 - 2013-07-06 20:21:01 UTC
Zacoros Tandar wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Brainless Bimbo wrote:
What function in the real world will he have?, produce long term strategy?, maximise short term profit?


Eve has plenty of room for micro transactions, dual training was one of them but more and moe are possible without braking the game or bring PTW stuff on nex/what-the-heck-name or anywhere else in Eve.

There is plenty of stuff to do with Eve, including open eyes to close minded people who think game market strategies apply RL.


NO, no no, there is NO room in EvE for micro/macro-transactions. We pay a subscription fee, that should be enough. If you are ok with micro/macro-transactions, then let's see some Titans, super strong shield boosters, warp scrambler immunity mods.. etc on the cash shop... then see you like it.

Unless EvE goes free-to-play/buy-to-play there is NO PLACE for any kind of cash shop.


In fact EVE has one of the best selling and best designed microtransactions in the MMO world; PLEX.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#794 - 2013-07-06 20:50:23 UTC  |  Edited by: fuer0n
Nerriana wrote:
Bob Blunts wrote:
Hey Sean,

Welcome to the community. I'm going to reserve my judgement on you until I see what you're up to here. Couple of quick things though:

1. EvE is LITERALLY the last bastion of intelligent gameplay on the MMO market. It is a living breathing work of art, and the community is VERY attached to it. Us older players have nowhere else to go, so we are pretty fierce to defend our online home.

2. Remember Sean, EvE is like a really classy lady. She doesn't PLAY 4 FREE, and you can't PAY 2 WIN.

Please don't wreck our game, thanks!


Amen. I find hiring a former EA exec with this sort of background ...worrying. I do hope Sean will shake off bad habits and F2P-centric ideology that may have stuck from EA and becomes an asset for CCP, but I don't think I'm alone in saying that we'll be watching future developments carefully.


ea as a company has sucked the life out of many small dev companies over the years as have many other companies. ccp got their last subscription from me.


prolly an ok guy. slimy like the rest but prolly ok.
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#795 - 2013-07-06 21:10:18 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Calm down people. No EA person will be able to survive the rotten shark parties, he'll be gone in three months....Cool




rotten shark. yum/
Grog Barrel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#796 - 2013-07-06 22:08:33 UTC
I must admit, that after reading these news I am by no means amused.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#797 - 2013-07-06 23:16:06 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Zacoros Tandar wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Brainless Bimbo wrote:
What function in the real world will he have?, produce long term strategy?, maximise short term profit?


Eve has plenty of room for micro transactions, dual training was one of them but more and moe are possible without braking the game or bring PTW stuff on nex/what-the-heck-name or anywhere else in Eve.

There is plenty of stuff to do with Eve, including open eyes to close minded people who think game market strategies apply RL.


NO, no no, there is NO room in EvE for micro/macro-transactions. We pay a subscription fee, that should be enough. If you are ok with micro/macro-transactions, then let's see some Titans, super strong shield boosters, warp scrambler immunity mods.. etc on the cash shop... then see you like it.

Unless EvE goes free-to-play/buy-to-play there is NO PLACE for any kind of cash shop.


In fact EVE has one of the best selling and best designed microtransactions in the MMO world; PLEX.




Indeed but people don't understand there are other ways of doing stuff they clearly don't understand or have any clue about.

Yet plex is exactly the business model CCP needs to keep pushing, and there's plenty of room to do it.

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Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#798 - 2013-07-07 01:08:40 UTC
The problem with people like Sean is that they see the users as numbers, and the last thing they care about is how the users feel about the game. All that matters is money. This is why EA has the reputation it has. Same goes for companies like NCSoft, where they only see players as a cash cow to be milked dry in as short a time as possible to appease investors.

I've not done a lot of in depth research on it, but in my experience in both games and real world businesses, I have never seen a new executive hire who did a complete turn away from his or her ideals. In fact, most companies that I've come across hire people because of those ideals and beliefs.

To that end, CCP likely hired Sean for the very reasons that concern the player-base the most. To me, that says a lot about what the top end of the CCP employment chain thinks about us as well. Sometimes I find myself in game wondering what happened to CCP, and who exactly it is that controls things now.

Profit favors the prepared
Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#799 - 2013-07-07 01:13:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Inokuma Yawara
De'Veldrin wrote:
Shade Millith wrote:
EA ... are not exactly popular.


This is like saying water is sort of wet.

And I will put this out there now:

Paid DLC will be the death of Eve. Probably not in terms of subscribers or income (you can always find more newbs, after all, assuming you make the game themepark enough) but it will no longer be the game we all love. It will be a shell of what it is now, and on that black day I will happily march with whomever wants to go straight to the starter systems and suicide gank every damned newbie I see for daring to break our game.


Ganking will not be possible with the new "themepark" DLC that are coming.


Well, if push comes to shove, there's this: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/about-the-game It certainly looks interesting.

Watch this space.  New exciting signature in development.
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#800 - 2013-07-07 01:28:44 UTC
Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:
Oh no.

No no.

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO

God/Universe/Flying Spaghetti Monster please save us right now.

CCP if there was ever a time to listen to the fans of your amazing game, now would be the time.

May his noodliness bring Beer valcanoes and stripper factories to EvE.

As far as a VP from EA, I'm sure he'll contribute something better than fermented shark.