Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As a large mining operations foreman, it really starts hurting to move 10million m3 ore more of ore. 6 jumps, pretty much becomes a a road trip through all out of EvE Universe.

The thing that I keep wanting is a highsec version of ore compression. Not as good as rorquals, that would defeat the purpose of having a Rorqual out. What I have in mind is like a foreman tier-cide.

This is what I have in mind.
Orca fit only.
CPU: 250
PG: 500
Slot: High Slot
Skill Required: Same as Rorqual version
Consumption: 50% more than Rorqual Version
Duration: 600/s -> May not be used with-in 400km of a Station/Gate/WormHole/Player Owned Station
Mass Multiplier: 30x
Max Velocity Bonus: -100%

Ore chart:
Ore type-------------Ore Volume----------Batch for compression--------Uncompressed volume-----Compressed Volume----Ratio
Veldspar Brick-------------0.10----------------------------400,000---------------------------40,000m3-------------------2,000m3------------------20
Scordite Brick--------------0.15----------------------------266,664---------------------------39,999.6--------------------1,999.98------------------20
Pyroxeres Brick-----------0.30-----------------------------133,332---------------------------39,999.6--------------------1,999.98------------------20
Plagioclase Brick---------0.35-----------------------------110,000---------------------------38,500.0--------------------1,925.00------------------20
Omber Brick---------------0.60-------------------------------66,000---------------------------39,600.0--------------------3,960.00------------------10
Kernite Brick--------------1.20-------------------------------30,000---------------------------36,000.0---------------------3,960.00-----------------10
Jaspet Brick---------------2.00-------------------------------20,000--------------------------40,000.0---------------------4,000.00------------------10
Hemorphite Brick--------3.00-------------------------------12,000---------------------------36,000.0---------------------3,600.00-----------------10
Hedbergite Brick---------3.00-------------------------------12,000---------------------------36,000.0---------------------3,600.00----------------10
No other ores are compressible

Why: I feel that this will help with logistics of doing large ops, and give the foreman a taste of what the Rorqual will be like, and like for me, give me a reason to look forward to the Rorqual. And at the same time, get the foreman used to downside of activating the module.

This module will not make it profitable for 0.01 iskers, nor for "self refiner and use", users. It will get nullbears to come to highsec to help their null empire, creating competition for highsec ores.

That is a fine and dandy argument, but there is only so much ore to go around, unlike low and null sec.
High-sec doesn't get that nifty ore explosion the more you mine, what we get is what we get. Once it gets mined, out, that's it until reset.

Solo miners already have a hard time getting decent belts in empire space. Even more so now since the Ice changes.

If mining is already difficult in high sec.. why do you want more competition? How will more competition make it easier for the solo miner to be profitable and get their piece of the pie?

Ore doesn't need a boost in high sec. If anything nullsec needs a boost to get you carebears to come down and contribute to infrastructure and industry. How do you know who will be a solo miner and who won't be? And what classifies as "enough" ore for a solo miner? I also don't understand why nullbears would come to highsec when the ABCs are worth more and they already Rorquals down there for compression..

*Balthazar Lestrane scratches his head in confusion.

You and I both know that the only thing that will get get most carebear miners out of their safe little you-can't-touch-me high security fortress-wonderland is the complete removal of the ability to shoot at them. High sec miners want zero risk and all the benefits of the best ore, and they will continue to kvetch and moan until they get it. You said it yourself above. You want no belt rats, warp scram immunity on your hulls, and you want to mine in the safety of hidden ore belts that require probes to find.

Your own attitude in this thread says all I need to know about you and the other people like you. No to your idea, no to risk-free anything and no to moving any benefits of lower security levels to high sec.

Type-------------------------------------Volume----------Batch --------Uncompressed volume-----Compressed Volume----Ratio
1400mm Howitzer Artilery I----------50m3------------100--------------------154400m3-------------------5000m3-------------30.88
Multifrequency XL------------------------1m3------------1000--------------------13090m3-------------------1000m3-------------13.09

That still requires ores to be refined, then the time needed to create. Ore compression much better.

And how is that bad?

Dont see the problem here: mine 10mil m3 of ore > reprocess > start "compressing job" (building 1400mm artis or crystals depending on mineral composition) > go mine another 10mil m3 > start another "compressing job > haul artis from previous job to destination in 1 trip.
As for standings - you can pay someone for standings without taking your time from mining.

If you dont know how to manage your time - thats your problems, not game's.

Your bias is so strong you keep missing the fact that I am stated I was building up to go out, as well as the fact I have not once stated I didn't want any risk while out there.

I understand very well about being a member in a very large Guild and alliance. I have been a co-leader for a Guild in Conquer Online for the past 9 years and some odd months.
I also understand that forced donation to the corp does nothing good for the contributor. All it does is take away the fun and make into into another job that doesn't pay.

Some nullsec and low sec corps are pretty selfesh when it comes to exploitation of miners. You guys lament over the lack of miners, but your own standards and actions create a negative force telling miners stay out, as well as others who want to go out, but know that in doing so they can and most likely will be chewed up and spat out. Those that complain are just told to HTFU. Such negativity tells those who are wanting to step out of highsec, that enjoyment without the bullshit luggage that comes with it is in highsec and it would be better entertainment value. Does this mean every null/low sec corps are like this? No.

I perfectly understand escorts for miners, juicer ships means very good chance for some pew pew, but at the same time, also a chance for no pew pews for 8-10 hours at a time. Get enough no pew pews for 8-10 hours a day, and that escort will start to get thinner and thinner. Somebody might think it will be great to afk and farm the belt rats for tags, sure, that works.

I too got a jar, I put pennies in it. I put a penny in it every time I read some lamentation about lack of miners and lack of players in nullsec. I have to empty the thing pretty often.