Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You are already being told, automatically and for no effort, every time a pilot enters or leaves a system.
Adding in the means to follow up on this intel, with the ability to determine if a new pilot is cloaked or simply off grid, is not balanced.

Require effort to become aware of pilots entering system before suggesting any means to add new detection ability that builds on this free intel.

Building on free intel is not balanced, in this context.

Actually, I like the idea of having the ability to "ping" and discover if there are cloaked vessels around me. If the ability only could be activated lets say once per 50km radius bubble per five minutes, and didn't show the placement or number of cloaked vessels, only a weird space-time distortion effect across the whole field, if cloaked vessels are present within 50km radius, then it would add to the gameplay I think. The waiting between each five minute ping would be like Red October excitement and when you get a positive result all you can do is hope you can warp out before the cloakers decloak and rip you to pieces (they see the spacetime distortion as you do and know you know they're there).

EDIT: Perhaps the ping could only result in spacetime distortion if a cloaker is moving? So even if you get a negative result there could be cloakers standing still around you, and it would add to the positive pings, because then you know they're moving, and could be moving towards you read to bomb you. Would really make things exciting, or what do you think?

Well actually they are balanced.

As no one can't find them, does this mean that someone can find them? You certainly know they are present.

Cloaking is not a problem, to use a model that says "oh you have been here for not even 10 minutes, let me de-cloak you." isn't fair or balanced. The best solution is something that is extremely difficult for a player to do or takes long enough that it gives the cloaker fair game, if he is there.

my recommend solution would be something like a specific probe for scanning cloaky people. however it has a low scanner strength, can detect cloaked people. People in non-Cov Ops Ships take less time to scan, but still takes like 5 minutes to pinpoint (warp in would be a minimum of 10 or 20 rather then 0, so you still have to try and decloak them), and people in cov ops ships or cloaky T3s take longer. this means that for you to scan them they must be sitting still, if they are moving around they you know they are active. someone could be a bot warping around in your system cloaked for 3 hours non-stop? REPORT THEM or tell them to open a convo or you will.

again this is just an idea, so hate on me all you like.

Well present a better solution to the problem then so that this talk about cloaks can end after years of complaining and we can start talking about something else. It's a topic that merges too often and there are always the two sides to it. And as much as you say my idea is out of balance I see that with the current mechanics the cloaks are even more out of balance.

So present a solution to the problem mr CMS. I realy don't care what it is as long as something happens even if you get local removed and then add probes but something needs to be done.

Indeed. Cowardice brought on by the fact their all seeing eye, 'easy mode' intel system isn't working as well for them. This effect can be gained without a cloak, but let's ignore that and focus on them instead.

Welp.. was just an idea.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback.

Back to the drawing board.

A portion of the playerbase will complain about literally every single aspect of EVE. According to you, we should be able to buy SP, have a separate no PVP server, no more than a handful of ships should be able to lock one another, all systems should have a population cap of a few hundred, autopilot should take you to zero, CONCORD should be in lowsec and a whole pile of other awful ideas people with no clue how the game works bring up in here constantly.

Just because some people want something changed doesn't actually make it a problem.

To do that you would have to remove the cloak reactivation delay completely, but that would never be abused

People complaining doesn't equate to there being a problem. This subject has been talked over before and the solutions to their perceived problems have been posted. Therefore it has been shown that no problem exists.

So until any problem can be shown that has no current solution, then these threads are pointless. If you can show a problem, then let's hear it. But going over old ground and false facts, will not help your cause.