Wormholes

maybe dumb idea... static nullsec wh in all c5/6 wh in addition to the current static wh
this is a quick thought without thinking it over seriously...

let the comments begin :D

or maybe a module of somekind to create a random outgoing wh to k-space (no HS of course)

Nullsecs are extremely common c5s/c6s. No need for statics.

It's called moon goo.

You capture it. It's highly desirable(isk fountain). You can hold it for at least one reinforce timer.

Stop denying what already exists in the sandbox.

tl;dr We just want to F1 and win win win win

While we are throwing out ideas for a wormhole revamp, please give us supers. It is really not fair that our section of space is prohibited from using certain ships in the game.

THIS IS BS CCP, GIVE ME MY SUPERS NAO!

am i doing this right?

You're acting like the only valid fixes are "CCP please add/remove stuff."


But let's just ignore all those people that say that mechanics DON'T have to change to fix any perceived problems. Carry on with "CCP please fix what some feel is not broken, but I feel is broken, so it must be broken." Also, there are plenty of good posts past page 2.


If people REALLY want to get into the discussion, read the first 9 pages.

I agree about reading the whole post to get a full idea about the discussion, but 9 pages is lot to read, and if you must comment at least read a couple of pages before you do (it seems some people aren't ). I said the first two because it is easier to get the point more for instance than reading page 5. Personally I saw more quality posts in the later pages.

I am not saying that CCP should fix everything this game. I think EVE is the best game for the reason that all the good content is player driven. But the problem here is that there is no in game mechanic that allows me to create this content. At the end of the day we as a playerbase are constrained within the boundaries of the mechanics CCP offers us. And it is not a fix per say, it is an addition to add more meaningful PVP, which I can't see how the players can do. If you have a suggestion I would love to hear it.

I understand, and frankly, I can see why some people want these changes. I have met a number of wormholers that say they don't want to PVP outside of w-space. I think Messoroz said something to the affect of utilizing wormholes to pvp in other venues, which is a great way to create PVP opportunities, but wormholers would have to want to create these opportunities.

I know that the immediate response is "I don't want to PVP in null/low, I ONLY want to PVP in wormholes!" I've heard it at least 436,311 times. So, if staying in w-space, avoiding the nasty nullsec and lullable lowsec is the desire, then eventually wormholers do run out of things to fight over, since the community stabilizes, rules form, and stuff happens. Essentially, what I'm getting from all of this, is that some wormholers want content brought to them so they don't have to go anywhere outside of wormholes to enjoy their game.

Do I think that is a tad selfish on the part of some wormholers? Yes. Do I blame them for wanting content brought to them? It's your $15 a month, so you can say whatever you like as far as I'm concerned. I don't feel that wormholes were designed to be a stand alone game, separate from the rest of EVE. Eventually you have to interact with other parts of the community, or it gets boring.

Find someone to dislike and go evict them, or take a Tornado gang into null.

I didn't ignore it, I chose not to respond to it because other people have already answered you, and frankly it is bullshit. It is very easy to self destruct your ships and modules before you actually destroy the tower denying the attackers anything of value (one of the changes proposed was to take the ability of destroying ships inside pos shields). And I don't know if you are living under a rock but a new ninja change that came with the new patch, is that nothing drops from the SMA above a frigate.

You know it is very hard to take you seriously whe all you do is attack all the c5/c6 community for no apparent reason. And using words as "moaning" doesn't help either, because this is a discussion, something that grown ups do when you know, they are discussing issues.

Since you don't seem to have a basic understanding of human interaction and economics, having something of value can only incentivize to do a particular activity. So let us say I have a good chance to get a few ships out of the invasion, then it might make you do it more, it certainly won't make you do it less. We are here proposing to change the mechanics that guarantees 100% that you won't have any loot if you didn't notice.

And saying something doesn't work, because just.... is also a very weak form of argument. It doesn't take a game designer genius to figure out that making loot drop is not only solved by taking your ability to unachor your modules, but there can be other workarounds.

And anyways loot dropping is just 1 of the proposals (and I already said it might not be the best idea), and there are many more proposed, I summarized some of them (not all) not very long ago (page 9 I believe).

And the "not flying the same ****" is not a content generator" comment from you. I don't even think that statement makes sense whatsoever. PVP drivers are in game mechanics that incetivises PVP (not create a new form of PVP, just makes you want to do more of it).

And next time before seeing that your post went unanswered by one person, ask yourself this, did I not get a response because the other person is "stupid", or maybe because my post lacks any substance.

By the way the name calling was totally unwarranted, because "blatantly stupid" arguments don't generate 150 replies, or maybe it does according to your warped understanding of human interaction.

Just a heads up, if you are going to be spewing the same "quality" posts, getting a response (at least from me) is really flimsy.

I hope that was an enough response for you.