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Rookies in EVE Guide 17: basic things on planet management/interaction/PI

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Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#1 - 2013-07-05 14:51:03 UTC
This video shows some of the most basic things about PI (also known as Planetary Interaction, planet management, and Colony Management)

http://youtu.be/vEU_pkz4xow

I will cover how to launch things into space in another video.

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt

Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#2 - 2013-07-05 16:29:44 UTC
It's up now. I hope this helps any new player that's thinking about doing some PI in game.

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-07-05 19:49:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsukino Stareine
This will be the last video I watch, you've not learned anything from your previous videos and the criticism given.

Still too long, no structure and too much deviation from the point.

First 8 minutes gone there wasn't even a mention on how to even START Planetary Interaction. You warble on about some totally irrelevant stuff about making money while you sleep and then markets and oh my god just please stop making videos.

Make a PLAN for your video, REHEARSE what you are going to say, REVIEW the video before you render and, god forbid, publish, EDIT the video so it actually looks polished.

I hope you take something on board from my last round of constructive criticism because I won't be back.

Also one more thing: you have a lot more impact if you actually DO what you're talking about at the same time, not just lecture for 15 minutes before you even undock.

I'm going to do you justice by watching the entire thing but really you either need to make a 180 in how you make these videos or just stop wasting your time on this.

As I'm watching this video, you have a black screen with background music and no commentary from about 14mins to 18mins, this whole thing just reeks of amateur, unpolished and terrible video making. Can you honestly tell me that you're proud of what you made?
Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#4 - 2013-07-05 21:27:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Craig Bennett2th
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
This will be the last video I watch, you've not learned anything from your previous videos and the criticism given.

Still too long, no structure and too much deviation from the point.

First 8 minutes gone there wasn't even a mention on how to even START Planetary Interaction. You warble on about some totally irrelevant stuff about making money while you sleep and then markets and oh my god just please stop making videos.

Make a PLAN for your video, REHEARSE what you are going to say, REVIEW the video before you render and, god forbid, publish, EDIT the video so it actually looks polished.

I hope you take something on board from my last round of constructive criticism because I won't be back.

Also one more thing: you have a lot more impact if you actually DO what you're talking about at the same time, not just lecture for 15 minutes before you even undock.

I'm going to do you justice by watching the entire thing but really you either need to make a 180 in how you make these videos or just stop wasting your time on this.

As I'm watching this video, you have a black screen with background music and no commentary from about 14mins to 18mins, this whole thing just reeks of amateur, unpolished and terrible video making. Can you honestly tell me that you're proud of what you made?



I fixed the black screen the best I could with YouTube. Thanks for pointing that out.

And besides that black screen. I am proud of what I made. But I do hope I can get the TRH company to a point where I can hire professional video makers to make guides. (At which point you might see me stop making videos)

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-07-05 21:49:55 UTC
I must ask you: what's the purpose behind making these videos? You're clearly not up to date with a lot of game mechanics and sometimes you just plain get things wrong (You're also terrible at pvp, but that's just a personal gripe with your video style, it has no real impact on the quality of the guide).

If this has all been some elaborate troll I firstly, salute you because you got me hook line and sinker and secondly, I must question your mental health.

Did you watch other video guides before attempting to make your own? You're not the first one to do this so people expect the quality to be at the VERY least on par to what is already available. You didn't deliver and after 17 videos I can barely see any improvement from the first.

Create something good and you will get praise for it, don't blame it on "trolls" when people dislike your videos because they dislike them for a reason: they're crap.
Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#6 - 2013-07-05 22:08:14 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
I must ask you: what's the purpose behind making these videos? You're clearly not up to date with a lot of game mechanics and sometimes you just plain get things wrong (You're also terrible at pvp, but that's just a personal gripe with your video style, it has no real impact on the quality of the guide).

If this has all been some elaborate troll I firstly, salute you because you got me hook line and sinker and secondly, I must question your mental health.

Did you watch other video guides before attempting to make your own? You're not the first one to do this so people expect the quality to be at the VERY least on par to what is already available. You didn't deliver and after 17 videos I can barely see any improvement from the first.

Create something good and you will get praise for it, don't blame it on "trolls" when people dislike your videos because they dislike them for a reason: they're crap.


My overall reason for doing the guides is to help people. As I said when I started this thing. I wanted to help new players, and people who are looking up the game.


I may not have the "flare", and I may seem a little bored (which I won't deny). But I try.


Anyways, I do pay attention to what everyone says. Most people just have a problem with my mic or the lack of emotion I give. Some people even said I sounded like I was super bored.
I've tried everything with my mic and audio software. So the only thing that is left on that is to say the problem is me or I need a $200 mic. But as far as the emotion thing. That's just how I am.
In fact, I've been told a few times I make a great scout. (If a scout doesn't show emotion then the FC doesn't freak out. The scout should only show emotion when something is really wrong)

BTW your not a troll. There were only 2 or 3 trolls that was being stupid. Ace was one of them. (S/he was going in a few of my post and saying what was wrong with a different post. Like the last one she was mad about guide 10. Not guide 16. So instead of going to guide 10. S/he trolled a good guide.)

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-07-05 22:13:36 UTC
Again with the $200 mic thing again, you DO NOT need that to make a decent video. The problem is not with the sound quality but the actual effort you put into it.

It's clearly not well-planned, not rehearsed and not edited to any standard I would even consider publishing myself. I would be embarrassed if that's all I could come up with and so should you. Set yourself a higher standard because the level of your videos right now is close to unwatchable, I'm sure you're capable of better.

As for helping new players, as good as your intentions are, SOMETIMES YOU ARE HURTING THEM with incorrect/outdated information.

If you're going to make a video "guide" you have to be meticulous in making sure what you're guiding about is actually CORRECT.

Also practicing your elocution wouldn't hurt either, plenty of boring voices can be perfectly clear but a lot of the time you just mumble and it's extremely difficult to hear what you're saying.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-07-06 00:46:31 UTC
And yet another video of avg. quality.

With no clear idea on how to record it (too much useless crap, hardly any good info)

Let alone that I still have the feeling you are more the type of player that needs videos then to make one.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-07-06 02:17:13 UTC
Should probably get that throat cancer looked at

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-07-06 02:38:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Hessian Arcturus
Ffs dude, just stop. I know you're only trying to help, but the quality of these videos is half ars*d and it isnt because of your microphone, it because of the effort put in. You said yourself half the time you're bored, and it reflects. The videos themselves are dated information and really arent helping any noobs.

If you truly want to help, sit back, take a second to think about it. Rehearse or write down what you want to say and edit it and put together into a final cut. But most importantly, do your research, outdated information does more harm that good.

And for the record, I have a £25 "Deuce Ex" (thats the brand) headset that when I'm talking it feels like I am sat next to you as it is very, very clear.

It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.

Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#11 - 2013-07-06 02:58:12 UTC
Okay. Firstly I would like to point out that I am a newbie to EvE (just over 2 months) and I am trying to look for a way to get passive income, so I am considering PI as an option.

Now onto the more important part. I don't know what your other videos are like, but this hasn't helped me understand anything at all. It's completely baffling due to the fact you know (by the looks of things) about as much as I do in regards to the topic. I can barely hear you (not due to microphone issues as you say) but due to mumbling and the sheer amount of boredom in your voice.

This is not a good way to help newbies like myself to get into the topic.

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."

Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#12 - 2013-07-06 03:18:49 UTC
Seraph Essael wrote:
Okay. Firstly I would like to point out that I am a newbie to EvE (just over 2 months) and I am trying to look for a way to get passive income, so I am considering PI as an option.

Now onto the more important part. I don't know what your other videos are like, but this hasn't helped me understand anything at all. It's completely baffling due to the fact you know (by the looks of things) about as much as I do in regards to the topic. I can barely hear you (not due to microphone issues as you say) but due to mumbling and the sheer amount of boredom in your voice.

This is not a good way to help newbies like myself to get into the topic.



This was a very basic PI video guide. (I said it toward the start)

What questions do you have about PI? If I can't answer them, then I might be able to point you to someone who can.

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt

Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-07-06 05:20:57 UTC
Come on people, help the guy out with what he's trying to do and volunteer. Seriously, go back and look at some of the first videos he posted, he really needs the help.

I hope that doesn't come off as a personal attack or anything and I'm not trying to derail the the thread. This is about helping people after all, and he needs help.

OP please look into taking a public speaking course at a local college or at least consider stopping by any of your local music shops and see if there's a voice coach you could talk to. Realize that your videos as they currently are, come off as just a simple conversation between two people. That works fine when it really is just two friends having a chat, but that's not what's going on. Your presenting yourself as an instructor to a wide audience and as such you need to be able to present your information in a clear and concise format. A public speaking course will give you the skills you need to get your information across in an effective manner. A few simple hints I can pass on from having taken speaking classes, as well as drama and technical writing courses for that matter, is make a point to fully pronounce your words when you speak them and avoid any slang terms. Sit up straight in your chair, relax and breathe normally. Don't slouch as that makes it more difficult to breath and with harder breathing, speaking becomes more labored. Move the microphone farther away from your mouth, 2-3 inches at least, and avoid large exhales, again going back to the breathing normally suggestion above. As has been mentioned several times already, write a script beforehand and use it. Don't try and ad-lib your way through the content, that will only confuse people who are not as familiar with the subject as you might be.
Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#14 - 2013-07-06 06:02:42 UTC
Klymer wrote:
Come on people, help the guy out with what he's trying to do and volunteer. Seriously, go back and look at some of the first videos he posted, he really needs the help.

I hope that doesn't come off as a personal attack or anything and I'm not trying to derail the the thread. This is about helping people after all, and he needs help.

OP please look into taking a public speaking course at a local college



Thanks for pointing out that volunteer stuff.

Anyways, I've already taken some speaking courses. It was required of me to get my degree. (I received an A)
On top of that, I've spent over 9 years in speech therapy. (I am able to take in a lot of information, and I'm excellent in math and sciences. But I didn't start talking until I was about 5.)

However, I will keep your advice in mind. I will study some methods teachers use while they talk.

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-07-06 08:49:12 UTC
Craig Bennett2th wrote:
Klymer wrote:
Come on people, help the guy out with what he's trying to do and volunteer. Seriously, go back and look at some of the first videos he posted, he really needs the help.

I hope that doesn't come off as a personal attack or anything and I'm not trying to derail the the thread. This is about helping people after all, and he needs help.

OP please look into taking a public speaking course at a local college



Thanks for pointing out that volunteer stuff.

Anyways, I've already taken some speaking courses. It was required of me to get my degree. (I received an A)
On top of that, I've spent over 9 years in speech therapy. (I am able to take in a lot of information, and I'm excellent in math and sciences. But I didn't start talking until I was about 5.)

However, I will keep your advice in mind. I will study some methods teachers use while they talk.



I have again reported both of you PI videos

Your rookie help video thread got locked by ISD, not because of the derailing or trolls. But because even ISD agreed that your videos are of such low quality that they do more harm then helping new players.

If you need a refreshing..

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3219727#post3219727


READ IT. But clearly your so egocentric that you don't read replies at all.



And ANY of your future videos...will all be reported as reopening a locked thread.

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