Missions & Complexes

What is better will vary from person to person.

I can produce all t2 ammo, fairly efficiently from the ground up, but virtually always buy what I use. It would be cheaper to build my own, but I don't like the fiddliness much.

maybe someone can explain this to me, but why would you ever use a large shield booster on a lvl 4 tengu? i use either one sba'ed small booster, or two dead space boosters with a sba and i'm fine for every single mission out there and i can even tank the bonus room in Angel eXtrav. Beside it just lying around and you finally have a reason to use a faction booster, i just don't get why you'd spend the extra cash on a tank you just dont need.

For me, it was always get as much gank as possible and then tank as little as you need.

I totally understand a large for plexes and even c3s or c2s but it seems you are taking away a lot of gank by fitting a large shield booster and wasting all those lovely rig slots for ccc instead of rigors and flares.

Thanks :)

It appears carebears have hurt Emperor Salazars butt in some way.

If you flying solo and have the time to keep an eye on your cap I agree you don't need to be cap stable. So instead of been a short sighted noob... you should first see how the person you trashing plays the game.. looking at previous posts is rather difficult... so I guess its beyond your abilities... but to save you time... I dual box with this and a NM. This does all the tanking and I don't have to worry about it blowing up. All I have to do is switch targets and then back to NM. And if carebears were so stupid.. how on earth could they afford this tengu and a faction fit NM.
Troll along now....

My alt did level 4 in this fit with minimal missile skills. Orbit the warp-in beacon at 5 km or the next gate at 500 m (gates are huge), and shoot smallest to largest, giving priority to webbers. I ignored triggers and had no problems.

You can use T1 launchers, but that really is a crime on a Tengu.

This isn't the best fit, but it works, and is cheap.


[Tengu, Basic]
Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Shield Boost Amplifier I
Dread Guristas Photon Scattering Field
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Booster II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Good thread im new to the tengu for lvl4's aswell so i had some of the same questions.

One thing i would be interested in hearing about is the skills needed to optimize the Tengu for missions. I know the basics, but is there any other skills worth training that would optimize the Tengu, defense or offensive wise. I have trained the offense and subsystems to 5 and im working on shield management.

Oh btw look ot for "stop the thief" mission, cause the will spawn on top of you and theres atleast 4 webbers, i almost lost my ship doing that. theres a work around on the survival guide

Buy a bigger booster.


Use my fit and go into damsel, shoot the trigger guy with 1 shot, then start on the building, blow it up, take chick and gtfo. That fit can tank everything. You dont even need to move around, just sit at 0m/s.

K, I lied.

You're using 3 mids just so you can get away with using a cheap booster!

lol, your first loss mail back in 2008 when you started Jan 19 (would post it but its against forum rules for certain situations and available on BC though its manual post).

Cormorant vs Navitas, you were but 3 days old. Needless to say, your Cormorant didn't win. Especially to a mining frigate ! How was that learning experience? 1 missile launcher and a miner, but you aggressed in a newb corp. lol newb mistake there

lol your second loss mail was a caracal to a merlin a week later. A frig, if which you know light missiles work wonders against even in the hands of a newbie if they got lucky. lol the 2 heavy launchers, an assault launcher, and a salvager in the highs, hull rep ship scanner 1mn AB with 1 civ shield rep in the mids and whats this...a hull rep and armor plate in the lows on a shield ship. Classic newb loss

Or your third loss mail, of all things a drake in lowsec. Ah, that famed ship. And whats this? OMFG! Still a month into the game and you still didn't learn to fit right. A 2x standard missile launcher, 2x standard missile assault missile launcher, 3x heavy assault missile launcher, a salvager, a ship scanner (again?), a hull rep (again?), and small armor repair (shield tank ship), over drive (slow ass ship that drake until you get skilled up enough to be good at nano flyig), and a warp stab. On top of that, you lost your pod a minute later along with that painfully laughable killmail where you have not even learned to put a shield tank on it.

And 3 months later around your 5th month into the game, you have a properly fit caracal sporting a tank and 5x of the same launcher without your favorite hull rep, ship scanner, and armor rep. lol what did you do with that 3 months, spend your time in highsec like a cry baby? From your second loss mail second month into the game shooting 1 newb in a moa, a bunch of faction towers (which can't fight back, so easy as **** to destroy if you have enough time) you managed to bag 1 ship in your first 5 months before your lolmails had a decent fit that it took 14 guys to down you.

How did you learn? Did you ask someone for advice? Did you read a guide? Either way, your basicly holding hands as you learn from someone with experience be they told you word of mouth or wrote a guide. Usually, the first step to learning is to ask a question which is what the OP did in the first place. You just like to shoot your mouth off to look like the classic Internet Toughguy(tm) and forget everyone starts a newb , even your proof is out there to see if you look hard enough (don't bother looking for mine, this toon is ment to annoy guys like you through Internet AnonymityGuy(tm) and even the highsec mission has only lost mostly cheap frigs and industrials to standard attacks rarely with poor fits...thats what I have learned much quicker from the start then you did )

Kill casino and out will reduce spawns...