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Day/Night Cycle?

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Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#21 - 2013-07-05 18:13:21 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Noddy Comet wrote:
How do you tell if it's night time in space?


Umm... the same way as anywhere else? The sun goes down, it gets dark, ambient noises change to nighttime sounds (crickets, frogs, wind rustling trees, etc.)

The sun going down generally requires a planet that is in orbit around a star, and that is rotating around its own axis, hardly the type of thing you'll find in a space ship. Trees, crickets and frogs in your space ship are usually down to poor maintenance and slovenly habits, if you have an infestation of this nature space your janitors and get some new ones, alternatively contact a local pest exterminator who will be more than pleased to cleanse your ship with antimatter. As for the wind, if you want some eat more beans.


I'm not really sure what the fundamental difference is between a planet and a spaceship orbiting a star (except for one being much bigger, obviously), but I'll take your word for it.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#22 - 2013-07-05 18:20:18 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:

I'm not really sure what the fundamental difference is between a planet and a spaceship orbiting a star (except for one being much bigger, obviously), but I'll take your word for it.

A space ship doesn't tend to rotate around its own axis, unless you happen to be piloting one that generates artificial gravity through centripetal force.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#23 - 2013-07-05 18:22:33 UTC
This reminds me of an old joke about a Politician announcing a new space exploration mission to land on the sun:

Someone asks him, "Say, isn't the sun very hot, won't you burn up when you land?"
The politician says "We thought of that, and that's why we're going to land at night."


Anyway, another Thomas Hurt thread.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#24 - 2013-07-05 18:34:10 UTC
You know what I find fascinating? I always think of stars as these immense nuclear furnaces. I mean, they are, but when I hear facts like our sun burns through 600 million tons of hydrogen every second, I think ....wow.

Then, I hear that translated to: The sun consume the mass of the Earth (in hydrogen) in about 70,000 years. And I think, gee, that sounds alot smaller than I was thinking. An object nearly a 3 million miles in diameter and essentially all the nuclear activity is occurring in an area far smaller than the Earth.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 

Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#25 - 2013-07-05 18:46:10 UTC
How do you tell what season it is on the sun? I need to know when to put my tomatoes in the ground.

SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#26 - 2013-07-05 18:58:16 UTC
Schalac wrote:
How do you tell what season it is on the sun? I need to know when to put my tomatoes in the ground.

Solar Seasons

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#27 - 2013-07-05 19:12:45 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
You know what I find fascinating? I always think of stars as these immense nuclear furnaces. I mean, they are, but when I hear facts like our sun burns through 600 million tons of hydrogen every second, I think ....wow.

Then, I hear that translated to: The sun consume the mass of the Earth (in hydrogen) in about 70,000 years. And I think, gee, that sounds alot smaller than I was thinking. An object nearly a 3 million miles in diameter and essentially all the nuclear activity is occurring in an area far smaller than the Earth.


Except that it's not "consuming" all of that mass. It's converting the vast, vast majority of that mass into Helium and other elements.

What's more interesting is the amount of mass it's converting into energy.

About 4x10^9 kg/s is converted to energy and released according to Einstein's famous equation of Mass-Energy Equivalence.

That means that every 1.5x10^15 seconds, (47.5 million years) the Sun releases 1 Earth Mass as Energy.

Which means that, since the Earth was formed, 4.5 Billion years ago, the Sun has converted the mass of 95 Earths into Energy.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Shin'rohtak
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-07-05 19:27:57 UTC
Almost as bad as people saying America is 2,013 years old. :\
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#29 - 2013-07-05 19:51:21 UTC
Shin'rohtak wrote:
Almost as bad as people saying America is 2,013 years old. :\

TIL that the Earth is only 3x as old as the US Twisted

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#30 - 2013-07-05 19:53:56 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
but when I hear facts like our sun burns through 600 million tons of hydrogen every second, I think ....WoW.
.



Someone always has to make every thread about that game, dont they

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#31 - 2013-07-05 19:57:06 UTC
Once upon a time, there was art. And then a man named Jackson Pollock decided that paint was an enema, and his canvas was a toilet.

Similarly, trolling was once an art, as well. Then people like the OP were given internet access, and the whole genre went to hell.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#32 - 2013-07-05 19:59:09 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Once upon a time, there was art. And then a man named Jackson Pollock decided that paint was an enema, and his canvas was a toilet.

Similarly, trolling was once an art, as well. Then people like the OP were given internet access, and the whole genre went to hell.



Im glad we share so much in common in regards to all the arts and crafts

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#33 - 2013-07-05 20:01:20 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Once upon a time, there was art. And then a man named Jackson Pollock decided that paint was an enema, and his canvas was a toilet.

Similarly, trolling was once an art, as well. Then people like the OP were given internet access, and the whole genre went to hell.



Im glad we share so much in common in regards to all the arts and crafts


I'm really not that up to speed on art. I'm kind of no good at it. Apparently fingerpaint isn't made with real fingers.

I had the same problem with girl scout cookies.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#34 - 2013-07-05 20:03:01 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
You know what I find fascinating? I always think of stars as these immense nuclear furnaces. I mean, they are, but when I hear facts like our sun burns through 600 million tons of hydrogen every second, I think ....wow.

Then, I hear that translated to: The sun consume the mass of the Earth (in hydrogen) in about 70,000 years. And I think, gee, that sounds alot smaller than I was thinking. An object nearly a 3 million miles in diameter and essentially all the nuclear activity is occurring in an area far smaller than the Earth.

And then you translate cosmic sized into human scale and realize Earth is 1.3 cm in diameter while the sun is 150m away and 1.5m in diameter while every human on earth easily fits into a tiny ball of 0.001mm diameter.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#35 - 2013-07-05 20:09:55 UTC
How do vampires work in space?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#36 - 2013-07-05 20:11:46 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
How do vampires work in space?



Same way they work on land?


I dont...whut? What?

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Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#37 - 2013-07-05 20:15:08 UTC
I am assuming their blood boils same as humans, only it shoots out of their fangs like steam from a teapot.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#38 - 2013-07-05 20:23:32 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
I am assuming their blood boils same as humans, only it shoots out of their fangs like steam from a teapot.

Coffee exiting through my nose is an unpleasant experience, you owe me a keyboard.

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Kijo Rikki
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#39 - 2013-07-05 20:29:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Kijo Rikki
RubyPorto wrote:

Except that it's not "consuming" all of that mass. It's converting the vast, vast majority of that mass into Helium and other elements.

What's more interesting is the amount of mass it's converting into energy.

About 4x10^9 kg/s is converted to energy and released according to Einstein's famous equation of Mass-Energy Equivalence.

That means that every 1.5x10^15 seconds, (47.5 million years) the Sun releases 1 Earth Mass as Energy.

Which means that, since the Earth was formed, 4.5 Billion years ago, the Sun has converted the mass of 95 Earths into Energy.


Yes, I did not mean to imply the sun actually consumes it, I was aware it was converted to helium. Those are some really interesting facts and further adds to my mystification as to how little is going on inside comparatively speaking (to the size of the sun).

On the subject of conversion, another thing that kinda confuses me is all the converted helium should sink to the center of the sun, forcing the hydrogen to fuse in a sphere outside of the center, and as I understand it, helium fusion wont occur until the hydrogen supply is nearly out and the sun enters its red giant phase. I always wondered how the force of gravity and the force of fusion worked when the helium at the center shouldn't be involved in the process. Or does a significant amount of helium have to be created before it can sink past the fusing hydrogen at the center?

Abrazzar wrote:

And then you translate cosmic sized into human scale and realize Earth is 1.3 cm in diameter while the sun is 150m away and 1.5m in diameter while every human on earth easily fits into a tiny ball of 0.001mm diameter.


I'm aware of just how immense the sun is compared to Earth (a million times in volume, I believe), I just meant relative ot the size of the sun it is interesting how comparatively small the fusion core is. Nevertheless, I always love mind-blowing facts like this, thanks!

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 

Brother Mercury
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2013-07-05 20:31:20 UTC
Catlos JeminJees wrote:
6/10 some pleople fell for it


I was thinking 5/10 at first. Now even more people are falling for it. Have to bump it up to 7/10. Bonus point for the continued effort by OP.
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