EVE General Discussion

Well firstly you need to get over the fact that your time isn't your most precious commodoty, because:

a) You're playing Eve so your time is clearly worthless
b) You've been in the game since feb 2012, you should have a decent set of support skills for fitting stuff to your ships.
c) Training higher skills is largely pointless if you can't afford to fly anything more than a T1 frig or cruiser.
d) You are unfulfilled and are not having fun.
e) You're in an NPC corp you are under no pressure.

Also what the hell are you talking about your 'pvp skill queue' can't be used to make money? There are these things called missions where you get paid to shoot rats, shooting rats and shooting players uses mostly the same skillsets. Train up scanning and go do exploration, and yes astrometrics are pvp skills.

Stop being so fixated on a destination, you're never going to reach it. You have to learn to be happy now.

Also scam people, it's pretty easy money and there are lots of morons playing this game.

Confirming this is good advice. Scamming is great money with minimal skill requirements. Missions are simple enough. You seem to have plenty of training corps under your belt, you haven't learned anything applicable to making iskies???

So you're training for something you just got done saying you can't afford to do.

Great grand strategy there Sherlock.

Join FW, there's good isk to be made and even better fights to be had. It is true FW won't make you Bill Gates rich like it used to, but it's still pretty profitable. You don't need big skills to plex, you just need big balls to stay in your plex and defend it from the enemy milita/ neut pirates. Don't be 'that guy' that warps off the second someone looks at their plex.

Sadly, the best answer is shoot rats in missions. All the skills that help you shoot rats, also help with PVP, except the social skills, which are all pretty low level skills anyway.

I mine and do PI. It may be boring but you need isk right get to it man.

I would recommend The Secret by Rhonda Byrne. The galaxy has isk in abundance and you need to send out the right energies before wealth can flow to you. I was a poor miner living frigate to frigate before reading The Secret now I have multi billions.

They're vets. Like in WoW, you're not going to generate money like they do.

But you have a number of options as a new player if you're flexible enough (and you have to be, especially in training). Had to put my main's industry training on hold to skill up battlecruisers and command ships and side skills to fly them. But back to industry again...Refinery Efficiency 5 in a couple hours, HURRAY! Been saving ore since I began for this day!!! Then onto Metallurgy and Scrapmetal processing to be able to have perfect refine.

Why?

Because you need a side income that you don't need to micromanage. What I'm skilling up nothing will goto waste, and also useful in building and research, let alone anything that drops it can be sold or refined to build new things. If resourceful enough you'll take any trash and turn it into ISK, or to feed larger production items. Next thing you know you'll be generating sustainable ISK on anything you do, be it PvPing, missioning or exploring off of just drops. When you get to that stage, you can build the things and not be dependent on the market. Pure profit.

But it starts with the main problem here: inflexibility. If you can't generate ISK from combat or missions, you need to find another way. Be it mining, PI or even making the smallest things to sale (like modules from all the salvage...pretty good prices on them). Mining can offer easier ISK (a load of even common veldspar in a mining barge III Retriever, is close to 4mil *per* load). A little over a week of training in it, you'll be able to fly a Retriever and can mine around 1200m3 in 2mins (Retrievers hold around 25k with mining barge III). All while waiting for your other skills to level, and on top of missioning (do it and salvage, as the salvage will add to your income, or you can build your stuff with it). You'll want the navy standings anyway (another way to make ISK, LP exchanged for things to sell). PI is another way - AFTER - you get some ISK from things like mining and salvaging, as it costs.

Like all things in EvE...it takes time.

How in the world would FW mess up your PvP Skill queue - are you directly aiming for titans?

I made my first couple of 100 mill hopping into an incursus, running FW plexes and meanwhile perfecting my fitting, navigation, gunnery support skills, trained up for cruisers etc... - perfect synergy. You don't need any probing skills or anything else non-pvp related to do it.

You might actually get to do some pvp whilst doing it (but expect anyone not in a blob having three OGBs in a POS.).

Join Test. You will get free frigates and cruisers. There is some newbie training, but a lot of opportunity to go on fleets and learn mechanics in live action.

You'll be able to salvage for ratters if you're persistent, and make a fair bit of isk until you have the skills to rat for yourself.

I assume there are other nullsec groups with similar programs, but I am not familiar with them, just Test because I am in Test.

You can also try Enlightened Academy. (ENL-A) it's a feeder group for ENL-I which is in Test.

Whatever you do, don't fall for recruitment scams, although with only 12 mill to your name, it's unlikely anyone will be trying to scam you too hard.

Good luck and fly safe.