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Hi-sec suicide ganking

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Zoum
Energizerized
#1 - 2013-07-05 14:49:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Zoum
I've seen a great many posts recently crying about suicide ganks and players threatening to leave over it. As a recent victim my tengu was popped at a High Sec Gate. Besides the several 100 million the ship alone was worth It was my mission boat tricked out with close to 3 billion in modules.

It was a sad loss but I learned two things. I didn't really need that much isk invested in one ship, I was asking for it. And two: this game is awesome. For every victim there is a winner and the guys that got me had quiet the pay day. Ill enjoy hunting them over my 30 day kill rights and use this as a lesson to fly better (and fit smarter) in the future.

While the loss represented about 1/2 of my net worth I'll rebuild and keep enjoying this great game.

Keep Calm and Fly on!

**EDIT**

Based on some of the replies I wanted to clarify a little further. Upon reviewing my Kill Boards you'll find a few Tengu losses, some worth about what I lost the other day. However these were always in Low Sec and Null Sec. This was my first suicide gank. I thought maybe by sharing the story I could help enlighten or encourage other players that may be frustrated with similar losses of their own.

In Eve you're not safe anywhere. Even in High Sec, on a routine jump at a gate my ship was destroyed. That's part of the fun of Eve though. Part of what makes it special and unique. PvP isn't an afterthought you queue into. You're not safe anywhere, no matter where you are, or what you're flying you're vulnerable to losing it. That's an important lesson I think for people to learn.

To paraphrase another post I read: For every loser there is a winner, for every groan there is a cheer for every face palm a high five.

The real test comes when you first learn this lesson and how you handle and deal with that lesson. Do you cry and quit the game, do you run to CCP or do you take it in stride, rebuild your assets and apply the lesson to future dealings.
As for myself? I never claimed to be a good pilot, or even a smart one. But like I did with my other losses I'll run more missions, do more exploration sites, I'll collect data cores from my research agents and I'll look for savvy trade deals. I'll cash in my profits from PI and my moon mining ventures. I've always been pretty good at making isk, but I'll always be better at losing it.

It is my hope that people don't quit on this game with their first taste of loss. This game has been around 10 years and I'd love to be here for the next 10.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#2 - 2013-07-05 14:51:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Came expecting tears, left disappointed yet surprisingly cheerful. Good post.

+1

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-07-05 14:51:34 UTC
Zoum wrote:
I've seen a great many posts recently crying about suicide ganks ayers threatening to leave over it.


A great many? Recently?

Link to 3.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#4 - 2013-07-05 14:55:38 UTC
Was expecting rage and disgust, left knowing someone truely understands the game...

...
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#5 - 2013-07-05 14:58:46 UTC
The tear deprivation in this tread makes me sad

but the fact that someone understands the game makes me happy
Elvis Fett
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-07-05 15:01:28 UTC
You guys were both winners this time. They won for the obvious reasons, shinny killmail and loot. You win because you learned an important lesson and it resolved your will and awesome attitude. Also you can sleep sound knowing the loot Gods are on your side.

Total Module Loss:
2,222,015,689.00
Total Module Drop:
518,438,258.00

^ LoL
SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
#7 - 2013-07-05 15:02:32 UTC
Nice to see someone having fun playing a game :)

...
Zoum
Energizerized
#8 - 2013-07-05 15:05:51 UTC
Challenge Accepted

Verunae Caseti wrote:
Zoum wrote:
I've seen a great many posts recently crying about suicide ganks ayers threatening to leave over it.


A great many? Recently?

Link to 3.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=254576&find=unread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=254193&find=unread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=254377&find=unread
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#9 - 2013-07-05 15:07:17 UTC
Verunae Caseti wrote:
Zoum wrote:
I've seen a great many posts recently crying about suicide ganks ayers threatening to leave over it.


A great many? Recently?

Link to 3.


I'll try...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=254576&find=unread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=254377&find=unread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=254620&find=unread

Also, nie thread, OP. Smile

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#10 - 2013-07-05 15:10:09 UTC
That is the right attitude! Keep it!

Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#11 - 2013-07-05 15:10:35 UTC
You lost a faction fit Tengu in null in 2012; what am I missing?
Zoum
Energizerized
#12 - 2013-07-05 15:24:00 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
You lost a faction fit Tengu in null in 2012; what am I missing?


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18507280#disqus_thread
Ranek Tes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-07-05 15:27:45 UTC
Zoum wrote:
I've seen a great many posts recently crying about suicide ganks and players threatening to leave over it. As a recent victim my tengu was popped at a gank. Besides the several 100 million the ship alone was worth It was my mission boat tricked out with close to 4 billion in modules.

It was a sad loss but I learned two things. I didn't really need that much isk invested in one ship, I was asking for it. And two: this game is awesome. For every victim there is a winner and the guys that got me had quiet the pay day. Ill enjoy hunting them over my 30 day kill rights and use this as a lesson to fly better (and fit smarter) in the future.

While the loss represented about 2/3 of my net worth I'll rebuild and keep enjoying this great game.

Keep Calm and Fly on!

KCCO
Mag's
Azn Empire
#14 - 2013-07-05 15:34:25 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
You lost a faction fit Tengu in null in 2012; what am I missing?
It seems data mining really isn't your thing.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Zoum
Energizerized
#15 - 2013-07-05 15:35:56 UTC
KCCO my Friend!

Just to clarify, looking at my Kill Boards you'll find a few Tengu losses, some worth about what I lost the other day. However these were always in Low Sec and Null Sec. This was my first suicide gank. I thought maybe by sharing the story I could help enlighten or encourage other players that may be frustrated with similar losses of their own.

I never claimed to be a good pilot, or even a smart one. But like I did with my other losses I'll run more missions, do more exploration sites, I'll collect data cores from my research agents and I'll look for savvy trade deals. I'll cash in my profits from PI and my moon mining ventures. I've always been pretty good at making isk, but I'll always be better at losing it.

Keep Calm and Fly On!
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#16 - 2013-07-05 15:37:28 UTC
Mag's wrote:
S Byerley wrote:
You lost a faction fit Tengu in null in 2012; what am I missing?
It seems data mining really isn't your thing.


Just pointing out that his resolution not to invest so much in one ship seems a little insincere mate.

Perhaps you should judge my intent better.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#17 - 2013-07-05 15:40:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
S Byerley wrote:
Mag's wrote:
S Byerley wrote:
You lost a faction fit Tengu in null in 2012; what am I missing?
It seems data mining really isn't your thing.


Just pointing out that his resolution not to invest so much in one ship seems a little insincere mate.

Perhaps you should judge my intent better.
Oh I have no doubt you're well up on what is and isn't insincere mate. Intent is not a factor, or so I'm told.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Zoum
Energizerized
#18 - 2013-07-05 15:46:01 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
Mag's wrote:
S Byerley wrote:
You lost a faction fit Tengu in null in 2012; what am I missing?
It seems data mining really isn't your thing.


Just pointing out that his resolution not to invest so much in one ship seems a little insincere mate.

Perhaps you should judge my intent better.


As I explained that was in Null Sec where losses are expected. I never took a ship that valuable back to Null Again.

This lesson was more that in Eve you're not safe anywhere. Even in High Sec, on a routine jump at a gate my ship was destroyed. That's part of the fun of Eve though. Part of what makes it special and unique. PvP isn't an afterthought you queue into. You're not safe anywhere, no matter where you are, or what you're flying you're vulnerable to losing it. That's an important lesson I think for people to learn.

To paraphrase another post I read: For every loser there is a winner, for every groan there is a cheer for every face palm a high five.

The real test comes when you first learn this lesson and how you handle and deal with that lesson. Do you cry and quit the game, do you run to CCP or do you take it in stride, rebuild your assets and apply the lesson to future dealings.

That's all I'm saying mate.

Cheers!
Tobi Vecci
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-07-05 15:55:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobi Vecci
What strange thing is this in general discussion that doesn't entail ganking and leaving the game?

But seriously, good on you for learning an important lesson OP.

EDIT: Grammar and wording.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#20 - 2013-07-05 16:06:07 UTC
OP has a good attitude. He will go far in Eve.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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