These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
12Next page
 

NeX Items: Overpriced?
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Valiethuar Rahoeskilurn
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-07-05 00:17:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Valiethuar Rahoeskilurn
First and foremost, I am not complaining that CCP's NeX idea is terrible. This thread is just about the prices.

Now, on to the discussion: It would appear that some of the NeX items are a tad more expensive then they ought to be. I was in Jita the other day and found that on of the Men's Sterling Dress Shirts/coats (forgot which particular one) was selling for 500 mill ISK, another one for 900mill, and an Ishukone one for over 1200mill ISK. If you go into the USD part of that, just getting a nice looking coat for your character is going to run you $60 USD unless your a billionaire (not that getting money is difficult, it's just very time consuming). Seriously; who's gonna pay that much just to get a nice looking piece of cosmetics?

Alright, yes, I know what your thinking. "Well you don't have to get it if you don't want to. You go grind that money to buy it". Or you might be thinking: "Well, it's CCP's fault. Blame them". (Note: Considering the fact that the system has already been implemented there really is no point in removing it). Look here; all I'm trying to explain is that it would be very nice of the devs to lower the prices on their more expensive merchandise. Everything else seems fine.

Your opinion?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#2 - 2013-07-05 00:21:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Welcome to 2011, the summer of rage.

The original devblog from CCP Zulu appears to be mysteriously absent, however here's a quote from it
CCP Zulu wrote:
“Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don’t need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don’t need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are.

We will gradually introduce items at other price points, definitely lower and probably higher than what‘s in the store today. We hope you enjoy them and are as passionate about them as you are of the current items that are for sale.”

Needless to say, it didn't go down well.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#3 - 2013-07-05 00:33:24 UTC
It is odd that clothes cost more than giant futuristic spaceships. You'd think clothes would cost less than ammo even. But that wouldn't make for a successful MT store.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#4 - 2013-07-05 00:34:06 UTC
Valiethuar Rahoeskilurn wrote:

Your opinion?


-1/10

You're 2 years late.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#5 - 2013-07-05 00:35:50 UTC
Some clothing is 4m or so.

Some is extremely high.

Some items are FW LP items

Fluffy Bunny Pic!

Valiethuar Rahoeskilurn
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-07-05 00:43:43 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
Some clothing is 4m or so.

Some is extremely high.

Some items are FW LP items


.....Seriously? That makes things easier. Would be better if people had a list so they could do missions for the faction that gives out the clothing they want.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#7 - 2013-07-05 00:44:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
Rhivre wrote:
Some clothing is 4m or so.

Some is extremely high.

Some items are FW LP items



How much do you pay for a pair of glasses?

How much do you pay for a yacht?

How much does an aircraft carrier cost?

How much would a giant space carrier cost?



Yeah - a pair of monocles costing more than a space carrier sounds perfectly legit...

4 m for a shirt - you get a cruiser for that - makes sense...
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#8 - 2013-07-05 00:50:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhivre
http://www.ellatha.com/eve/LPSearch/sterling/

They cost 100m isk + 100k LP

And, judging by the movement of some clothing, and the sets people buy, the outfits are quite popular :p

Fluffy Bunny Pic!

mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#9 - 2013-07-05 00:50:57 UTC
CCP has stated that they made more income off of the ridiculously priced monocles than any other item in the store.

CCP's train of thought is simple. Cosmetic bling is 100% status symbol, and status symbols are given credence with correspondingly high prices.

I think it's good that microtransactions don't expand beyond this niche of "gold plated expensive bling".
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-07-05 00:53:22 UTC
Valiethuar Rahoeskilurn wrote:
First and foremost, I am not complaining that CCP's NeX idea is terrible. This thread is just about the prices.

Now, on to the discussion: It would appear that some of the NeX items are a tad more expensive then they ought to be. Everything else seems fine.

Your opinion?


6d old toon.

Sean Decker alt detected.

Really, Sean....really? Come on man. Really, you're getting paid some serious cash and you don't have a clue.....please, give me a well paying job and I'll turn the NeX around for you.

Don't ban me, bro!
Anela Cistine
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-07-05 00:55:08 UTC
It isn't just a coat. It is a lifetime subscription to coats. Every station in the galaxy has a copy of your coat in your size waiting just in case you ever turn up there. A lifetime subscription is expensive when you are immortal.

Imortal clothes for immortal men. It ain't cheap.

KracKstar
Honey Badger Squad
#12 - 2013-07-05 00:56:35 UTC
this again?
maybe this time since you brought it up it will go farther
Valiethuar Rahoeskilurn
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-07-05 00:58:05 UTC
Also, what about those items like tattoos and the cool laser monocle? Their listed in the game but can't find them for sale anywhere.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#14 - 2013-07-05 01:01:54 UTC
Valiethuar Rahoeskilurn wrote:
Also, what about those items like tattoos and the cool laser monocle? Their listed in the game but can't find them for sale anywhere.

They're not available yet, the assets are in the current client, and many more have been in the SiSi client for a while. I think CCP is looking at actualising some of the assets as part of a promotion going by a recent thread regarding the sleeve tattoos

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Adunh Slavy
#15 - 2013-07-05 01:02:53 UTC
$1000 pants, so you can feel elite, along with all the other upper-middle-class wanna bes wearing the $1000 pants.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-07-05 01:16:41 UTC
Basically comes down to the expensive items were the original ones and remained expensive because people had already obtained some from NeX.
Litair
Nleesh
#17 - 2013-07-05 01:28:33 UTC
Luxury items/status symbols just wouldn't be the same if every random peasant could afford to buy them, even though it doesn't cost more than a bowl of rice to have an indian child produce it.

Of course that's just how it works in the real world, but the same principle of exclusivity works in regards to the NeX store too :)
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#18 - 2013-07-05 02:58:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Unezka Turigahl
Anela Cistine wrote:
It isn't just a coat. It is a lifetime subscription to coats. Every station in the galaxy has a copy of your coat in your size waiting just in case you ever turn up there. A lifetime subscription is expensive when you are immortal.

Imortal clothes for immortal men. It ain't cheap.



Except we're nude when we're in our pods, so there's no clothing being destroyed. So that excuse doesn't work either.

Basically CCP threw lore, world building, and rational thought out the window when they made the NeX store. It doesn't make sense in the game world. They should have at least kept it to things that would make sense commanding a high price, like a new paint job or a model-altering retrofit kit.

Better yet, they should allow such things to be made by people outside the company. Just as Valve does with their micro-transactions in TF2 and DOTA2. Skilled modelers from communities like Polycount make cool things for Valve's games, Valve approves the best of them and sells them for real money, and gives a cut of the profit to the creators. If such a relationship existed with CCP and EVE, the first things I'd attempt to create for the store are replacement skins for all camouflaged ships. I'd be rich.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-07-05 03:33:49 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

Needless to say, it didn't go down well.

I love British understatedness. Lol

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#20 - 2013-07-05 03:52:02 UTC
mechtech wrote:
CCP's train of thought is simple. Cosmetic bling is 100% status symbol, and status symbols are given credence with correspondingly high prices.


The Noble Exchange was intended as a luxury goods store. The purpose of the store was to sell prestige, not cheap bling. For this, the Noble Exchange has been amazingly successful, witness the monocle wearer's club threads on this forum and the tears everywhere else.

Yes, the $1000 jeans comment didn't go down too well, because CCP Zulu was trying to explain the thinking behind the store rather than dress the gaping wounds of, "WAAAAAH! I can't afford the thing I want therefore CCP sucks! WAAAAAH!" As any parent knows, you cannot use logic or reason when talking to a two year old throwing a tantrum. I am guessing CCP Zulu either misidentified his audience, or has simply never had to deal with a temper tantrum. The appropriate response is, "time out! Go to your room and come back when you are prepared to listen!"

There are many players who want cheap frills (aka "bling"). There is a market there, which CCP is yet to address.

And of course there are a bunch of us looking forward to having shared social spaces where we can emote at each other while showing off our barbie dolls.

Day 0 Advice for New Players
12Next page