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Resetting wallet to 0 and starting from scratch

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I Sellsstuffz
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-07-03 12:15:26 UTC
If you choose to start from scratch i would contact someone trustworthy to hold onto your possessions, I know third parties are not normally free but if you have a real life friend that you trust that would work.

The novelty of starting from scratch wears off fast.
Kashmyta
HC - gizmos Gizco
#22 - 2013-07-03 15:21:56 UTC
AlphaOperative Altren wrote:
Hi all,

I've recently been considering selling everything i own in Eve then buying and activating plexes and starting again with just a Rookie ship and 0 isk. Obviously i wouldnt be starting completely from scratch as id still have the skills & experience ive gained.

Just feel like doing something a little drastic to shake things up for myself in the game. Is this something you've heard of people doing before? Does it sound like fun or the most ridiculous mistake someone in eve could make?

Just wondered on your thoughts as once ive done it its done!

Thanks in advance.



Do as you wish, I do not care.


Contagion
Infestation Inc
#23 - 2013-07-03 17:08:28 UTC
Just do RMT and you will be nuked back to 0 isk. Or even better negative isk!!

But on the more serious side, I applaud you. I've started alts to try and capture that wonder of starting again. Unfortunately the 2nd time is never the same. (so my wife keeps telling me..)

RAW23
#24 - 2013-07-03 17:19:44 UTC
AlphaOperative Altren wrote:
Hi all,

I've recently been considering selling everything i own in Eve then buying and activating plexes and starting again with just a Rookie ship and 0 isk. Obviously i wouldnt be starting completely from scratch as id still have the skills & experience ive gained.

Just feel like doing something a little drastic to shake things up for myself in the game. Is this something you've heard of people doing before? Does it sound like fun or the most ridiculous mistake someone in eve could make?

Just wondered on your thoughts as once ive done it its done!

Thanks in advance.



I gave away everything I owned (c. 400bil) to take a break from eve and coming back to nearly nothing has made the game orders of magnitudes more fun. Decisions are consequential now whereas before I could throw away a cap ship a day without denting my pile of cash. Isk making schemes are meaningful rather than just more of the same. It has really breathed fresh life into the game for me. However, ask yourself why you are doing it. If it is because your wealth has reached a level that the game has ceased to be challenging then I would say go for it. If you just want to try something different, maybe take the less drastic route and roll a new account and put the others into storage.

By the way, if you do want to dump your assets, look up Vaerah Vahrokha's charity fund. She stores isk from things like this to convert to plex for the next 'plex for good' charity drive. If you put your assets in that fund you will basically be RMTing the cash value of the plex to the Red Cross. That in itself is a nice thing to do if you have ungodly amounts of isk.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.

Darth Khasei
Wavestar Business Ventures Inc.
#25 - 2013-07-03 17:22:10 UTC
Respect. Cool

Doing what you want in EVE is what it is all about.

Carry on.
Ambassador Spock
Doomheim
#26 - 2013-07-03 17:22:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Ambassador Spock
Turelus wrote:
A while ago I tried something called "EVE Survival Test" where I rolled a new character and tried to play the game without using the player market, everything I owned I had to buy from NPC BPO's and build or find (no taking obvious ships) it was actually some of the most fun and exciting EVE I have played in a long long time! Every day when I logged in I had a goal and meaning to being online, something which playing on Turelus rarely brings.

It's a project I always wanted to continue and keep alive but the time and dedication needed wasn't something I could do without abandoning all my gaming time on Turelus (who at the time needed ISK to PVP)

OP try giving something like that a go and maybe even blog about it and do what I never could...
http://eost.blogspot.se/

That's a link to the blog I was planning to run with the project maybe it will give you some help finding a way to make your rebirth more interesting.


You've inspired me to do something similar. I'm going to start a new character and follow all the rules on your blog, with one addition. If I ever get podded I'll biomass the character. Smile

I shall call my project "EveCraft" since it'll be a bit similar to my other favorite game - Minecraft on hardcore mode! This'll be interesting - to the character creator!

Edit: Ooo, and I'll play the game properly this time - I won't train Destroyer until I get Frigate V, Cruiser until Dessie V, etc.. And I'll stick to one race only.... It'll give me a chance to master each ship class before moving on.

 --  - Ambassador Spock

"Vulcans never bluff."

Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2013-07-03 18:00:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
I did it by accident once (had given away all my stuff because I wanted to quit, came back a few weeks later) - it's boring.

I still had my main so I just ran lvl1 missions until I could afford a probing frigate, then started ninja salvaging lvl4 missions (Angel Extravaganza was awesome, ~10m in salvage iirc) - 3 days later I was back in a battleship grinding lvl4 missions, 2 weeks later my battleship had become a marauder and I was back at my old earning potential.

Even if you biomass your character you retain your experience - and EVE is hard for a new player because he is lacking experience, not because he is lacking SP or ISK making opportunities. You cannot turn back time, as an experienced player you will always know how to make 10-100x more ISK than a newbie with the same skills and equipment.

.

Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#28 - 2013-07-03 18:06:06 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
I did it by accident once (had given away all my stuff because I wanted to quit, came back a few weeks later) - it's boring.

I still had my main so I just ran lvl1 missions until I could afford a probing frigate, then started ninja salvaging lvl4 missions (Angel Extravaganza was awesome, ~10m in salvage iirc) - 3 days later I was back in a battleship grinding lvl4 missions, 2 weeks later my battleship had become a marauder and I was back at my old earning potential.

Even if you biomass your character you retain your experience - and EVE is hard for a new player because he is lacking experience, not because he is lacking SP or ISK making opportunities. You cannot turn back time, as an experienced player you will always know how to make 10-100x more ISK than a newbie with the same skills and equipment.


Doing boring things with fewer resources isn't going to make them any less boring and I'm not sure why you expected differently.
AlphaOperative Altren
Alternative Rendition
#29 - 2013-07-03 18:06:25 UTC
Cheers for the input guys. Definitely going to consider it, massive commitment. Just liquidating the assets would be a job in itself!

Thanks again.

Nobody ever figures out what life is all about, and it doesn't matter. Explore the world. Nearly everything is really interesting if you go into it deeply enough. ― Richard P. Feynman

Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-07-03 18:11:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Kahega Amielden wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:
I did it by accident once (had given away all my stuff because I wanted to quit, came back a few weeks later) - it's boring.

I still had my main so I just ran lvl1 missions until I could afford a probing frigate, then started ninja salvaging lvl4 missions (Angel Extravaganza was awesome, ~10m in salvage iirc) - 3 days later I was back in a battleship grinding lvl4 missions, 2 weeks later my battleship had become a marauder and I was back at my old earning potential.

Even if you biomass your character you retain your experience - and EVE is hard for a new player because he is lacking experience, not because he is lacking SP or ISK making opportunities. You cannot turn back time, as an experienced player you will always know how to make 10-100x more ISK than a newbie with the same skills and equipment.


Doing boring things with fewer resources isn't going to make them any less boring and I'm not sure why you expected differently.

I didn't, as I said this was not intentional - I just had given away literally everything to my old corp before "quitting" EVE, then I came back and made the experience that getting back on your feet from zero assets takes a lot less time than I would naively have expected,

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Freighdee Katt
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-07-03 21:50:33 UTC
It's a reasonable approach to cash in all your stuff for sub time, since you can't get the cash back, but you still get meaningful value from it, which is a few months or a year or however long to rebuild. If I were going to reset in EvE, I'd do it this way.

You should come back in a month or three and let us know how it went.

EvE is supposed to suck.  Wait . . . what was the question?

Ray Morrison
Doomheim
#32 - 2013-07-03 22:19:29 UTC
I have started over from scratch completely, as a noob no cash no skills nothing, just to do the skills I want at one time to see how hard it is for noobies
BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
#33 - 2013-07-04 03:10:50 UTC
Before you do that have you done everything in Eve already? I mean even trying things that don't seem so appealing to you? I did make an alt once that was my evil twin, unfortunately I couldn't afford to keep her, but I had a blast while it lasted.

It may be more fun to actually buy a new char that is trained differently than you are just to shake things up a bit :).

I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!  Now... where's Ken?

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#34 - 2013-07-04 03:23:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Setaceous
S Byerley wrote:
I tried blitzing the starter missions, but they jihad'ed my ship when I wasn't paying attention. I was sad Cry

Still work it as long as you were using a basic T1 frigate. Assuming the OP hasn't done the Career missions more than once, he can do them 8 more times. Boring yes, but they're worth 17mil plus sales from all the extra crap you get given. Each.

EDIT: Plus you get a reasonable selection of ships from each race.

If you don't avoid Jita, none of the career hubs are more than 11 jumps from each other.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#35 - 2013-07-04 03:36:00 UTC
It can be fun. This character, for example, is an alt I started a while back for a "fresh start" style of gameplay. I strictly refuse to fund his activities from my old main.

And I've come to enjoy him more, oddly enough. So yeah, I suggest the "make a new main" route, rather than sell all your stuff. If that floats your boat, then please, consider making a donation to my wallet. :P

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Paul Uter
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-07-04 03:54:53 UTC
Well yeah , being a Noob while game was still not dumbed down was the best part of this game.

Now everything is given on a silver platter to carter new wave of instant gratification players. I feel sorry for them.

FlamesOfHeaven
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2013-07-04 06:24:42 UTC
As mentioned above, sell stuff for isk and buy plexes to fund the extra game time.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-07-04 10:27:09 UTC
AlphaOperative Altren wrote:
Hi


Not sure I see any point to zeroing a wallet other than to deprive a skilled toon from adequate equipment.

Why don't you try it the other way around.......new toon with isk....sounds like more fun to me.

Don't ban me, bro!

Jace Errata
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-07-04 11:03:04 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
If you do actually do this, give me the ISK. I could use it

ffffFFF--

seriously though, I need it more than him. There's this Ashimmu I want need...

tweeten

One day they woke me up so I could live forever

It's such a shame the same will never happen to you

BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
#40 - 2013-07-04 11:12:32 UTC
So, if you do this what path are you going to take in EvE? Do you really want to start from scratch? Maybe you should make a trial toon right now and then see if you really want to do this.l

I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!  Now... where's Ken?

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