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Proof that plex is NOT pay to win...
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#21 - 2013-07-04 06:04:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
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Pay to Win doesnt mean a blind ******** Bonobo (likely this is some sort of BRT experiment) can play EvE well even when paying since only humans should play EvE.


I'm curious as to where the Bonobo got ahold of a credit card? And does it have people clothes on, or is it just naked? The clothes make the man, as they say.

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It allows you to pay other people to do it for you though.


I'm going to have to go semantics on this one. That's not paying to win, insomuch as it is the aggrieved party paying for the satisfaction of ensuring that someone else loses. A small difference, but still important.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#22 - 2013-07-04 06:10:53 UTC
That kill only proves PLEX (or RMT or just huge amount ISK received from friend or alt) cannot help handicapped person.

For PLEX you can buy OGB and carrier pilots, ships, assign fighters to your main, turn on skirmish and siege boosters - voila! - you are much more capable than few hours ago.
Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#23 - 2013-07-04 06:17:09 UTC
Wyrm Drake wrote:
Regardless. One incident does not disprove anything. PLEX is P2W in the right hands.



Pay to win would only be pay to win if you cant get the modules without paying money.
No idea how you got the impression that eve has a pay to win.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#24 - 2013-07-04 06:20:45 UTC
Daisai wrote:
Wyrm Drake wrote:
Regardless. One incident does not disprove anything. PLEX is P2W in the right hands.



Pay to win would only be pay to win if you cant get the modules without paying money.
No idea how you got the impression that eve has a pay to win.


It's the FoTM whine. That and freighters getting ganked, which is apparently a new phenomenon. Roll

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-07-04 06:26:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
Pay to Win doesnt mean a blind ******** Bonobo (likely this is some sort of BRT experiment) can play EvE well even when paying since only humans should play EvE.


I'm curious as to where the Bonobo got ahold of a credit card? And does it have people clothes on, or is it just naked? The clothes make the man, as they say.

Quote:
It allows you to pay other people to do it for you though.


I'm going to have to go semantics on this one. That's not paying to win, insomuch as it is the aggrieved party paying for the satisfaction of ensuring that someone else loses. A small difference, but still important.

Obviously its handler at MIT. Probably took the poor thing weeks of electroshock (wrong slot) / bananna (right slot) training to fit those ships too.

Likely shiny silver spacesuit. They like those.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#26 - 2013-07-04 06:30:59 UTC
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Obviously its handler at MIT. Probably took the poor thing weeks of electroshock (wrong slot) / bananna (right slot) training to fit those ships too.

Likely shiny silver spacesuit. They like those.


Well, if it has people clothes on, then it's still more of a player than half the ice miners I've ever met. Ever try to get a conversation started in an ice mining hub? It's like talking to the TV while watching Springer, and even less interactive.

I would imagine that they train said Bonobo to use corp fits, it's probably faster. Although I bet that getting it to set lowball buy orders for T2 guns and faction ammo was a pain in the ass.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2013-07-04 06:34:58 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
For PLEX you can buy OGB and carrier pilots, ships, assign fighters to your main, turn on skirmish and siege boosters - voila! - you are much more capable than few hours ago.


Those would only make you far more capable of sitting in a wider variety of hulls. It won't amount to anything more than hilarious killmails if you don't know how to fit or fly them, and that's the kind of thing you can't buy.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Jorden Ishonen
Doomheim
#28 - 2013-07-04 06:47:46 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Lipbite wrote:
For PLEX you can buy OGB and carrier pilots, ships, assign fighters to your main, turn on skirmish and siege boosters - voila! - you are much more capable than few hours ago.


Those would only make you far more capable of sitting in a wider variety of hulls. It won't amount to anything more than hilarious killmails if you don't know how to fit or fly them, and that's the kind of thing you can't buy.


Snow Axe, I think having a sig like yours without a link to the quote is punishable by law in Texas.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#29 - 2013-07-04 07:26:55 UTC
Sex Slave Girl
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#30 - 2013-07-04 08:59:34 UTC
Uh, this could also be staged by the guy that killed it. Some people have to much isk, reached endgame eve and are bored. What's left to do? Yes, make funny killmails.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2013-07-04 09:04:22 UTC
Sex Slave Girl wrote:
Uh, this could also be staged by the guy that killed it. Some people have to much isk, reached endgame eve and are bored. What's left to do? Yes, make funny killmails.


No its just a terrible pilot.
Endeva
The-Destiny
#32 - 2013-07-04 09:46:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Endeva
Sex Slave Girl wrote:
Uh, this could also be staged by the guy that killed it. Some people have to much isk, reached endgame eve and are bored. What's left to do? Yes, make funny killmails.



so if i kill him the third time then it would totally prove your theory, correct? he left fw yesterday, but since he got concorded due to shooting at my alts, i believe there is a good chance of another epic km Big smile
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#33 - 2013-07-04 09:47:53 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Sex Slave Girl wrote:
Uh, this could also be staged by the guy that killed it. Some people have to much isk, reached endgame eve and are bored. What's left to do? Yes, make funny killmails.


No its just a terrible pilot.

this

now bend over.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#34 - 2013-07-04 10:08:52 UTC
There's always going to be a disagreement between people regarding PLEX being P2W or not. Just depends on how you view it.


Buying PLEX from CCP then selling in-game for isk is seen by some as a form of P2W. But then you could argue that multiple accounts are also P2W. I don't see much difference between PLEX and multiple accounts they give different benefits but I don't think one is worse than the other. I don't see a problem with either where EVE is concerned.

Neither PLEX or multiple accounts are P2W in the sense of buying super weapons from an in-game shop which can't be obtained in any other manner. This is the way a lot of people view P2W.


My view is PLEX are a form of P2W and so are multiple accounts. I don't see any problem in using either though in EVE as EVE is more a universe in chaos and a bit more chaos isn't going to matter. I've purchased PLEX in the past and would purchase them again if I felt I had a requirement for them, although I no longer use multiple accounts but that was my choice.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-07-04 10:09:09 UTC
grrlet wrote:
I don't think we're allowed to post KMs, so please check out eve kill. The Bhaalgorn in the top left (Most expensive kills).

Noob victim in a veteran pirate ship failing to win against a veteran player in a newbie ship.

PS: Before you point out Concords participation, please note that they only account for 15% of the damage. 15b isk did not prevent fail 2 win noobie from making an uber fail mistake.



I've really no idea that this has to do with plex or what plex has to do with P2W.

Plex doesn't give you access to golden ammo.

Just to reiterate, I'm supporting and trolling you at the same time.

Don't ban me, bro!
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-07-04 11:48:18 UTC
Six Six Six wrote:
There's always going to be a disagreement between people regarding PLEX being P2W or not. Just depends on how you view it.


Buying PLEX from CCP then selling in-game for isk is seen by some as a form of P2W. But then you could argue that multiple accounts are also P2W. I don't see much difference between PLEX and multiple accounts they give different benefits but I don't think one is worse than the other. I don't see a problem with either where EVE is concerned.

Neither PLEX or multiple accounts are P2W in the sense of buying super weapons from an in-game shop which can't be obtained in any other manner. This is the way a lot of people view P2W.


My view is PLEX are a form of P2W and so are multiple accounts. I don't see any problem in using either though in EVE as EVE is more a universe in chaos and a bit more chaos isn't going to matter. I've purchased PLEX in the past and would purchase them again if I felt I had a requirement for them, although I no longer use multiple accounts but that was my choice.


Just because something gives benefits doesn't make it a win. One could extend the logic that "paying for PLEX is p2w" to "paying for a subscription is p2w". Those paying for a monthly subscription don't have to buy a PLEX to keep playing, giving them several hundred million ISK more per month than those who buy PLEX with ISK. Does this make paying for a regular subscription p2w?
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#37 - 2013-07-04 11:55:21 UTC
When did people start thinking plex is pay to win?
Its like.. The dumbest **** Ive ever heard..
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2013-07-04 11:58:10 UTC
grrlet wrote:
I don't think we're allowed to post KMs, so please check out eve kill. The Bhaalgorn in the top left (Most expensive kills).

Noob victim in a veteran pirate ship failing to win against a veteran player in a newbie ship.

PS: Before you point out Concords participation, please note that they only account for 15% of the damage. 15b isk did not prevent fail 2 win noobie from making an uber fail mistake.


And my main's drone killed the attacker and scored a kill.

Talking about the most unsatisfying kill ever (why I don't play hunters in WoW. If I don't kill it it's not satisfying). In arena if my team wins, fine. But if I deliver the final puny blow as a healer with but 10k mana left...wow...that's something to remember (and a way to **** off the other player...killed by a healer).

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-07-04 11:58:56 UTC
PLEX is better described as Pay To Suck.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Kashmyta
HC - gizmos Gizco
#40 - 2013-07-04 12:00:19 UTC
This like the 4th fit office bhal he has lost in as many weeks each one was only partially fit

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