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CCP Games Announces Former EA Executive Sean Decker as Senior Vice President

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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#621 - 2013-07-03 16:29:40 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Tzar Sinak wrote:
This thread should be required reading for the new guy. Just maybe it'll add a little perspective on how loved EVE is and to serve as a cautionary tale.


Pray tell, what perspective would that be? That a large part of the EVE community suffers from Paranoid-schizoid tendencies (esp. paranoid anxiety) and it rants and rants without being advised to seek help?


You know, under normal circumstances, I think it would a lot less of an issue. But it had now been 24 hours, and CCP has yet to press release. Decker has yet to address the playerbase. And this threadnaught will continue to grow until either the company or the man addresses it. I was able read an article from gamesindustry.biz about how he was being brought in specifically for EVR, DUST, and what will obviously be a VERY VERY microtransaction-driven World Of Darkness. Which is all very ok, not only by me, but by the rest of the EVE community. If this guy can turn the mobile platform into a something workable, like mobile market, or mobile PI.....I am all for it. The article even went so far as to quote that EVE, "would remain CCP's flagship title under the same existing format it always has," which alleviates a lot of worry, but these are things that devs should be telling me, not games media sites.

Look how long it took CCP to issue statements after the Summer Of Rage. I think personally they need to get their hands around this thing, address fears and concerns, before something cataclysmic happens, (i.e., a leaked internal newsletter laying out a total move to microtransactions.)

And it has nothing to do with paranoia. It has to do with the hundreds and possibly thousands of players that subscribe to this game, month after month, pouring their hard earned dollars into it. I seldom play much other than EVE, and I personally want to make sure my ability to wind down is going to be here in the iteration I currently play, for several years to come. Because I did find this absolutely magical place, ironically my "first mmo," not the "other one." And I, just like every other person who posted their feelings on this matter, deserve to speak their voice and minds, especially when trying to protect the world WE ALL have come to enjoy and love.

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.

Digits Kho
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#622 - 2013-07-03 16:30:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Digits Kho
Its only normal that CCP is trying to find ways to make more money since they need to eat also . BUT this EA guy they found better leave his EA **** habits back at his EA office and not bring it to EvE. Theres a reason why i play a CCP game and not a game that has something to do with EA or their endless fails . god im so pissed after hearing all this
Anslo
Scope Works
#623 - 2013-07-03 16:32:05 UTC
So the plan is to swarm EA EU Customer Service HQ and spam their main entrance by covering it with sticky notes of covert cyno fields and slowly backing away Grease style, snapping and bobbing a bit with each step til we're all on the bus.

Good work guys, good work.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#624 - 2013-07-03 16:34:06 UTC
Anslo wrote:
So the plan is to swarm EA EU Customer Service HQ and spam their main entrance by covering it with sticky notes of covert cyno fields and slowly backing away Grease style, snapping and bobbing a bit with each step til we're all on the bus.

Good work guys, good work.



Im the warp in, but Im too paranoid to make Fleet, sorry

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#625 - 2013-07-03 16:39:35 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Wow, they actually topped the mintchip decision.

inb4 new zero tolerance iron first of control policy on the forums.


Because you think a company should tolerate personnal attacks against thier employee?


Depends whether Overseer EA defines personal attacks loosely (banned for talking down to the company) or tightly (deservedly banned for legitimately trashing a dev for his personal life).


The article you linked clearly imply direct personnal attack.

As for talking down to the company, I invite people to read the following :

Yelling at EA is like yelling at God. There is nobody there.

If for some reason there IS someone, he's not listening.

If for some reason there is someone there listening, he does not give a ****.

If there is somebody listening and caring, all you actaully are doing is pissing him off anyway.
Anslo
Scope Works
#626 - 2013-07-03 16:45:16 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:


The article you linked clearly imply direct personnal attack.

As for talking down to the company, I invite people to read the following :

Yelling at EA is like yelling at God. There is nobody there.

If for some reason there IS someone, he's not listening.

If for some reason there is someone there listening, he does not give a ****.

If there is somebody listening and caring, all you actaully are doing is pissing him off anyway.


The 'personal attacks' were legit gripes about a crap game release and a crappier response to the community, which equated to chortling, sticking their nose in the air, and telling the peasants to be grateful and shut up lest they have all their games taken.

Anyway, let them be pissed off. The gamers have a right to **** off whoever is listening if they don't even act on the complaints. Imagine something like that trying to fly in Eve. The Jita Riots would look like child's play.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#627 - 2013-07-03 16:45:19 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
You know, under normal circumstances, I think it would a lot less of an issue. But it had now been 24 hours, and CCP has yet to press release.


What are you talking about? This thread started with a press release.

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Decker has yet to address the playerbase.


One day on the job is sufficient time in your view to "address the playerbase" of a game with which he hasn't even been confirmed to be directly involved? What's he going to say besides "Hello!" exactly?

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And it has nothing to do with paranoia. It has to do with the hundreds and possibly thousands of players that subscribe to this game, month after month, pouring their hard earned dollars into it.


What aobut them?

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Because I did find this absolutely magical place, ironically my "first mmo," not the "other one."


How is that in any way ironic?

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#628 - 2013-07-03 17:39:23 UTC
I think we're all very, -very- curious about Decker's portfolio, and why CCP is bringing him in. We've gotten a pretty clear indication by way of the various articles and leaks, but CCP confirmation and elaboration would definitely help. Is he given a free hand to microtransaction it all up? Or is it more that he has a sense about these things, and is being instructed to pursue a very light-weight approach to these things...?

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OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#629 - 2013-07-03 17:46:22 UTC
Maybe this is a EA spy infiltrated into CCP, and will dump their SOV and run with the corporation money to hisec (murrica)?Lol
Srsly now. Once someone said, indirectly to us, that "greed is good". Maybe he got someone it to make this motto alive.
Jarac Raasen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#630 - 2013-07-03 17:49:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarac Raasen
Oh God, why... Cry

No matter where I go, the shadow of EA always follows, and falls upon the land. Evil

Welcome to EA+VE... oh God...
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#631 - 2013-07-03 18:01:58 UTC
Am I the only one who actually can see this guy bring down CCP just so EA can buy it and its franchises?

...

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#632 - 2013-07-03 18:04:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Am I the only one who actually can see this guy bring down CCP just so EA can buy it and its franchises?



Well, CCP is trying to get into Mobiles.... gaming :) ehm Nokia... ehm..

I still am curious as to why leave EA for CCP, was he not being promoted as fast as he liked, something smells. maybe he smelt he was getting the boot, any signs of trouble with im in EA?

Knowing WHY answers a lot of questions.
Jarac Raasen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#633 - 2013-07-03 18:07:24 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Am I the only one who actually can see this guy bring down CCP just so EA can buy it and its franchises?


That sounds like a typical EA tactic. Take a beloved developer, buy it out and then start pumping out garbage that pisses off the old fans and eventually destroys the company. Next step, move on and repeat the cycle. I'm all for giving people a chance... but my experiences with EA (Westwood, Pandemic, Maxis, BioWare) do not leave me feeling good about the situation. It's like no matter where I go, EA is there, following me.

If EA were to ever buy out CCP, that's it. That's the end of EVE. I don't see it happening, but I bet Mr. Decker would certainly try to bring in a little of EA's culture to CCP. We can only hope they don't listen to the bad stuff, or else we'll have to start rioting all over Empire Space and beyond. Actually, that's sounds kind of fun. Twisted
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#634 - 2013-07-03 18:07:40 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Am I the only one who actually can see this guy bring down CCP just so EA can buy it and its franchises?



Well, CCP is trying to get into Mobiles.... gaming :) ehm Nokia... ehm..

I still am curious as to why leave EA for CCP, was he not being promoted as fast as he liked, something smells. maybe he smelt he was getting the boot, any signs of trouble with im in EA?

Knowing WHY answers a lot of questions.

I've read and heard that EA is trying to clean up their act, and a few "upper management" people quietly resigned.

...

Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#635 - 2013-07-03 18:11:06 UTC
Jarac Raasen wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Am I the only one who actually can see this guy bring down CCP just so EA can buy it and its franchises?


That sounds like a typical EA tactic. Take a beloved developer, buy it out and then start pumping out garbage that pisses off the old fans and eventually destroys the company. Next step, move on and repeat the cycle. I'm all for giving people a chance... but my experiences with EA (Westwood, Pandemic, Maxis, BioWare) do not leave me feeling good about the situation. It's like no matter where I go, EA is there, following me.

If EA were to ever buy out CCP, that's it. That's the end of EVE. I don't see it happening, but I bet Mr. Decker would certainly try to bring in a little of EA's culture to CCP. We can only hope they don't listen to the bad stuff, or else we'll have to start rioting all over Empire Space and beyond. Actually, that's sounds kind of fun. Twisted

I can actually see that, as they've done it in the past so many times. Also, isn't all major developers in all media forms (TV, Movies, Music, Gaming, etc etc...) Buying up all smaller developers to secure their future.

See Disney for a perfect reference...Also, EA games is known for doing that........oh wait

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Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#636 - 2013-07-03 18:11:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Verunae Caseti
Jarac Raasen wrote:

That sounds like a typical EA tactic. Take a beloved developer, buy it out and then start pumping out garbage that pisses off the old fans and eventually destroys the company. Next step, move on and repeat the cycle. I'm all for giving people a chance... but my experiences with EA (Westwood, Pandemic, Maxis, BioWare) do not leave me feeling good about the situation. It's like no matter where I go, EA is there, following me.
Twisted


Repeat after me: Pandemic was already bankrupt and a failure when EA bought them. Maxis was already bankrupt and a failure when EA bought them. Neither of these companies were "victims" by any stretch of the imgination.

Most of the companies that EA "ruined" were ruined because staff walked out upon acquisition, and EA was only able to make an acquisition strategically because the companies were failing to put out financially successful titles. EA is not the devil.

Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Am I the only one who actually can see this guy bring down CCP just so EA can buy it and its franchises?


Yes. The key to profit is to ruin a product before you pay a bunch of money for it... winning strategy, that.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#637 - 2013-07-03 18:15:40 UTC
Verunae Caseti wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Am I the only one who actually can see this guy bring down CCP just so EA can buy it and its franchises?


Yes. The key to profit is to ruin a product before you pay a bunch of money for it... winning strategy, that.

Actually, that's EA games' strategy with everything. Throw massive amounts of money at it.

...

Zacoros Tandar
Doomheim
#638 - 2013-07-03 18:16:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Zacoros Tandar
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Am I the only one who actually can see this guy bring down CCP just so EA can buy it and its franchises?


I was thinking about raising the question of EA buying out CCP in the future, but I thought perhaps I was just being overly sensitive... I had however, not thought about it in the way you put it.

Please CCP don't get bought out! It will only destroy your games (Look at what happened to Bioware)... stay independent please!


"I see the world as a micro-transaction" - Sean Decker, CCP Games - Senior Vice President of Product Development.
Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#639 - 2013-07-03 18:28:26 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Actually, that's EA games' strategy with everything. Throw massive amounts of money at it.


Right, but why would they run the product into the ground/ruin it first? If they want the company for the value of its franchises, why would they ruin the franchises before buying? Makes no sense. Don't try to back pedal off your nonsense.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#640 - 2013-07-03 18:29:49 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Yelling at EA is like yelling at God. There is nobody there.


That's the sum of it.

So if anyone is going to complain about EA, you can, but they'll never respond no matter how much trolling and yelling.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell