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CCP Games Announces Former EA Executive Sean Decker as Senior Vice President

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#521 - 2013-07-03 11:34:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhivre
Incarna was only an issue because of the difference between what was originally offered, and what was delivered...not,as some people claim, because no one wanted WiS.

People wanted, and still want WiS, we just didnt get it, we got a single room to sit and upload videos into, which is cool and all, but its not WiS.

On topic: I am on crappy laptop, so cant open a bazillion links, but, unless he was the guy who was personally responsible for the EA messes in the past, it is not an issue for me where he worked before.

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Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club
#522 - 2013-07-03 11:36:01 UTC
Turelus wrote:

A perfect representation of modern games and gamers. People want all the satisfaction from a game with none of the work and games developers are more than willing to give them that as it makes them easy money.
Skyrim is a great example of this as well, a fantastic game but when did you ever need to stop and think about a decision or wonder where exactly you needed to go? Follow Marker Receive Loot.


Skyrim is a great example, of how the making skyrim WTFBBQ-Hard mods are imensly populare, and everyone with half a set of balls has 100+ mods running to make the game the way its suposed to be played.

That Sir is why we are the PC gaming masterrace and those dirty console peasants had to suck on the joke of a skyrim demo the vanilla version was.

Honestly, the wife of a fishing friend(over 50) had me mod her skyrim as it was to easy her (she hardly ever played a game in her life)
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#523 - 2013-07-03 11:36:38 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
But after a half hour, he gave up because his biggest complaint was that there was no quest helpers, no map coordinates, nothing because who bothers reading?


BTW, Blizzard now designed the game to include addons in encounters, which means without addons like DBM you're handicapping yourself and a liability for a group/raid. So you can put that pipe down.

As for EvE missions it doesn't help that the missions are indeed borked, that even the online help points out by how much.

And getting someone into a new game and telling there "here, play it" on some bet, what did you expect? You'll be the same n00b trying to figure how to work WoW's quests, Roll

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#524 - 2013-07-03 11:38:42 UTC
Cap Tyrian wrote:
Turelus wrote:

A perfect representation of modern games and gamers. People want all the satisfaction from a game with none of the work and games developers are more than willing to give them that as it makes them easy money.
Skyrim is a great example of this as well, a fantastic game but when did you ever need to stop and think about a decision or wonder where exactly you needed to go? Follow Marker Receive Loot.


Skyrim is a great example, of how the making skyrim WTFBBQ-Hard mods are imensly populare, and everyone with half a set of balls has 100+ mods running to make the game the way its suposed to be played.


Or that the #1 mod during Oblivion was to disable the mobs auto leveling.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#525 - 2013-07-03 11:48:46 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
But after a half hour, he gave up because his biggest complaint was that there was no quest helpers, no map coordinates, nothing because who bothers reading?


BTW, Blizzard now designed the game to include addons in encounters, which means without addons like DBM you're handicapping yourself and a liability for a group/raid. So you can put that pipe down.

As for EvE missions it doesn't help that the missions are indeed borked, that even the online help points out by how much.

And getting someone into a new game and telling there "here, play it" on some bet, what did you expect? You'll be the same n00b trying to figure how to work WoW's quests, Roll



You mean someone new, like you? Yes, I would imagine that you struggled quite a bit and the turning point was for you to come onto the EVE forums and tell us that PC gaming is dying and unless EVE becomes more like WoW, it too will die!

Well, Blizzard isn't a stranger to blatantly steal ideas from others to implement into their own game.

If I were to pick up WoW today, I'd fully expect my hand to be held through the theme park so I don't get lost on the way, be rewarded now and then with absolutely zero challenges (if you don't count boredom as one).

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#526 - 2013-07-03 11:51:35 UTC

Hire workers



Not fatcat do nothing for pay managers






"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#527 - 2013-07-03 11:55:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Ace Uoweme
Alpheias wrote:
If I were to pick up WoW today, I'd fully expect my hand to be held through the theme park so I don't get lost on the way, be rewarded now and then with absolutely zero challenges (if you don't count boredom as one).


I think you'll be killed by a worg as you vainly try to right click him. Pirate

BTW, I'm not new-new. Do you remember training up learning skills?

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#528 - 2013-07-03 11:56:11 UTC
So after the recent disaster in PR as a result of CCPs preferred ice cream, they now pull someone from literally the most hated company not just in the gaming industry, but in ALL industries. Someone with a penchant for microtransactions.

lol guise how do i good PR :(:(:(
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#529 - 2013-07-03 11:58:39 UTC
EVE is actually one of the few games where the playerbase actively punishes the developer/publisher so that changes are made.
Look how fast incarna was turned around, the sub count dropped so hard and so fast that CCP actually got scared.
I wouldnt worry too much, anything happens thats not acceptable, CCP will feel it Im sure.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#530 - 2013-07-03 12:07:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Alpheias
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
If I were to pick up WoW today, I'd fully expect my hand to be held through the theme park so I don't get lost on the way, be rewarded now and then with absolutely zero challenges (if you don't count boredom as one).


I think you'll be killed by a worg as you vainly try to right click him. Pirate

BTW, I'm not new-new. Do you remember training up learning skills?


A fairer assumption is that I'd get bored by the time I had brutally murdered my second critter.

So you are not new-new, just new? And I do remember learning skills. I remember maxing all of them. I also recall laughing at my friend when he told me that you had to work on your weapon skill for a certain weapon if you didn't have the skills for them otherwise the mobs would just parry or dodge.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#531 - 2013-07-03 12:11:28 UTC  |  Edited by: TheGunslinger42
Ace Boogi wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
coolzero wrote:
it works for some games...it may get you money at first for eve but not before loosing a large chunk of veteran eve players(those who also have a lot of accounts), me included.


Be careful when throwing around statements like, "not before losing a large chunk of veteran players"

If I was looking at the performance of Battlefield Heroes or whatever crappy casual free-to-play game was going, and knew about the nasty social environment of EVE veterans being the second or third biggest turn-off for new players, I would regard losing a large chunk of veteran players as A Good Thing™, if the inflow of new accounts more than compensated for the accounts shut down by the exiting bitter vets.

Then in two years when the income was at an all time high, gender balance at 45/55, we weren't receiving hundreds of complaints daily about sexual harassment, and lowsec was actively populated by people having adventures, I would look back at the decision to go Free-To-Play and thank myself for making that difficult decision.

Seriously, that is what goes through my head when I see people winding up that "ultimate ultimatum."

"Oh, you are threatening to quit if we do X? CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! We will do X in such a way that you will like it so much that you get your friends to subscribe too!"

lots of wisdom in this post


Not really, since it kind of ignores how that type of player are the ones that kept the game alive for ten years - not just alive, but growing. I do not believe it is growth despite those players and the atmosphere, but because of them. How many other MMOs - with the more standard, wow-ish approach - have came and went in the last ten years?

EVE is something different to the rest, that's its key to survival. Acting like those differences, both in the game itself and the community that developed around it, are some kind of roadblock that keeps it from attaining WoW-like godhood is ludicrous.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#532 - 2013-07-03 12:13:06 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
Incarna was only an issue because of the difference between what was originally offered, and what was delivered...not,as some people claim, because no one wanted WiS.

People wanted, and still want WiS, we just didnt get it, we got a single room to sit and upload videos into, which is cool and all, but its not WiS.

On topic: I am on crappy laptop, so cant open a bazillion links, but, unless he was the guy who was personally responsible for the EA messes in the past, it is not an issue for me where he worked before.


Word.

If CCP wanted to relaunch or even Kickstart WiS as a seperate F2P or B2P, I'd be all up for that. I still think it's the best solution: people who don't want WiS can ignore it. People who do can support it. I'd kick in a PLEX or two to open that door.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#533 - 2013-07-03 12:16:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Malcanis wrote:
open that door.





Just be careful when opening doors




I was in my ship hangar



But I needed the toilet and so went to go into my Captain's Quarters


But they've moved the butan




And I fell out of the station instead

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#534 - 2013-07-03 12:19:10 UTC
"Flushed with pride"

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#535 - 2013-07-03 12:23:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Given the way things are likely to go in Jita and general discussion I think it will be good if he can give a reassuring statement, in fact we read this third hand isn't a good sign, remember when CCP said one thing to us during Incarna and to the Icelandic press they said the opposite.

What we need (even via the CSM and this shoudl be an item on the CSM agenda) some comfort :) Such a change at the leadership is not an insignifigant change.


:)
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#536 - 2013-07-03 12:25:01 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Given the way things are likely to go in Jita and general discussion I think it will be good if he can give a reassuring statement, in fact we read this third hand isn't a good sign, remember when CCP said one thing to us during Incarna and to the Icelandic press they said the opposite.

:)




A statement from the SVP?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#537 - 2013-07-03 12:25:39 UTC  |  Edited by: RomeStar
Malcanis wrote:
"Flushed with pride"



I would hope you CSM members are vocal about this hire and relay the players concerns that he will turn EVE into a microtranscation themepark. If he does intorduce microtransactions have fun playing by yourself.

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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#538 - 2013-07-03 12:25:53 UTC
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
EVE is actually one of the few games where the playerbase actively punishes the developer/publisher so that changes are made.
Look how fast incarna was turned around, the sub count dropped so hard and so fast that CCP actually got scared.
I wouldnt worry too much, anything happens thats not acceptable, CCP will feel it Im sure.


As the playerbase, let's all just be thankful that CCP actually care enough to listen to our feedback/complaints.
Based on that, I don't see the gloom and doom anymore.

COO - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse  CEO - Sanctuary Pact Alliance
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#539 - 2013-07-03 12:26:14 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Given the way things are likely to go in Jita and general discussion I think it will be good if he can give a reassuring statement, in fact we read this third hand isn't a good sign, remember when CCP said one thing to us during Incarna and to the Icelandic press they said the opposite.

:)




A statement from the SVP?



Why not? I think it would be a good idea if he were to say hi to his new customer base.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#540 - 2013-07-03 12:26:41 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Given the way things are likely to go in Jita and general discussion I think it will be good if he can give a reassuring statement, in fact we read this third hand isn't a good sign, remember when CCP said one thing to us during Incarna and to the Icelandic press they said the opposite.

:)




A statement from the SVP?



Why not? I think it would be a good idea if he were to say hi to his new customer base.



What does an SVP do?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann