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anastasia kernsky
Clan Wolf Hunters
#21 - 2013-07-02 07:11:01 UTC
i my opinion the system is broke. what is the point of having freight cans if not to hide your contents that u are moving threw space. you all agents this are mad because you will lose more ships to trash ships and the good loot ships will be able to get by you because you will be hesitant to shoot them. a lot of you would lose your happy fun time if you couldn't kill a ship that you know you are going to get loot. i know there are some that gank because they want to (goons) and a few others trying to kill off competition.

whats the point of freight cans right now?

PVPers and Ganker get Kittend off when u threten there ez way of life with a change to something that would challenge them

Xybin Ramone
Alba Industries
#22 - 2013-07-02 08:59:11 UTC
You mine 23 jumps from where you manufacture?!!! I have nothing constructive to say.
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-07-02 09:06:01 UTC
anastasia kernsky wrote:
Winter Archipelago wrote:
Blockade Runners. Look them up.



yea if i want to make 2k or more trips and have no life to move all the ore 23 jumps each way i prefer to move all my ore at one time so i can build ships once i refine it

also i like to haul every thing i get to keep cost down on the stuff i build


lol

anastasia kernsky wrote:
whats the point of freight cans right now?


theyre containers, im sure you can think of something
Shaden Nightwalker
Tryblium Sanguinis
#24 - 2013-07-02 09:10:23 UTC
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
Fly with an escort fleet


So you have people watching you being ganked or so they can whore on concord killmails?
anastasia kernsky
Clan Wolf Hunters
#25 - 2013-07-02 09:13:18 UTC
Xybin Ramone wrote:
You mine 23 jumps from where you manufacture?!!! I have nothing constructive to say.


I'm 23 jump from where i buy ore and other materials as for where i mine and manufacture are about 4 to 5 jump apart i can't mine null sec ore in high sec so i have to buy them and jita is usually cheapest when it comes to getting what i need

PVPers and Ganker get Kittend off when u threten there ez way of life with a change to something that would challenge them

Alisarina
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-07-02 09:36:22 UTC
Use Red Frog/Black Frog Freight to move your stuff. They know how to hide stuff in transit.

If your not willing to do this then that's your own logistics problem that you never really thought through when establishing your production location. If you had some more foresight you would of hired mercs to kill an inactive POS closer to Jita or at least between Jita and your desired mining location to cut down on jumps. Also getting mercs isn't required as there are many moons within 5 jumps of Jita empty right now, my last count a week or two ago was at 30-40 and I hadn't done all the systems by any means.

Now the wrap and pack method is great, it works, however if you look sus people will still make the attempt. I know I would try and gank a Freighter chock full of double wrapped stuff. It would be like christmas, even if it was just Trit or a load of Caldari shuttles.

Also if your worried about moving stuff, do it closer to the daily DT, seems to be 'safer'...sometimes...maybe. Your milage may vary and any lost ships are your own fault.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#27 - 2013-07-02 09:36:55 UTC
Use the force Cool
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#28 - 2013-07-02 09:39:26 UTC
Eve is risky, deal with it.
anastasia kernsky
Clan Wolf Hunters
#29 - 2013-07-02 10:06:35 UTC
I know eve is risky but why do i have more risk than the ganker they can tell if they are going to make a good pay day or if they dont want to shoot the ship because there no loot to get which will be a loss. my idea makes it a 50/50 chance which means that they no longer have the free ride

you all act like im asking for my ship to be impossible to kill. im asking for somthing to make more of a chance for ganker to work for and take chances like the rest of us

PVPers and Ganker get Kittend off when u threten there ez way of life with a change to something that would challenge them

Sex Slave Girl
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#30 - 2013-07-02 10:09:05 UTC
anastasia kernsky wrote:
Winter Archipelago wrote:
Blockade Runners. Look them up.



yea if i want to make 2k or more trips and have no life to move all the ore 23 jumps each way i prefer to move all my ore at one time so i can build ships once i refine it

also i like to haul every thing i get to keep cost down on the stuff i build


Ganking freighters with ore is sooo worth it.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-07-02 10:48:46 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:
Blockade Runners. Look them up.


But that's like trying to stick your **** into a hamster.

Don't ban me, bro!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2013-07-02 11:03:45 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
People continue to post after being told you can already hide your cargo...
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#33 - 2013-07-02 11:12:37 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
People continue to post after being told you can already hide your cargo...


baltec! I'm surprised at you. You ought to know that double wrapping is just a myth spread by the Goons to get people to expose their stuff to more ganking.

:P

/sarcasm

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Logical Chaos
Very Italian People
The Initiative.
#34 - 2013-07-02 16:40:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Logical Chaos
anastasia kernsky wrote:
I know eve is risky but why do i have more risk than the ganker they can tell if they are going to make a good pay day or if they dont want to shoot the ship because there no loot to get which will be a loss. my idea makes it a 50/50 chance which means that they no longer have the free ride

you all act like im asking for my ship to be impossible to kill. im asking for somthing to make more of a chance for ganker to work for and take chances like the rest of us


Actually a good argument!

Anyway: You can hide, it just makes you look suspicious :D

EDIT: So maybe you do the following: Insure your freighter and set a nice autopilot route through all "those" systems. Have some containers with you that makes it look like you double wrapped something. Die. Ev0l pirates get no loot. ???. Profit (except for that pesky insurance fee :D)
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#35 - 2013-07-02 16:56:36 UTC
Cans that hide cargo containers, they get blown up
Blockade runners, they get blown up
Anything that hides cargo, it gets blown up.

It's how it is. Adding it ingame makes you feel better, but won't make you any safer.

Yaay!!!!
grrlet
Leper Outcast Unclean
#36 - 2013-07-02 19:26:33 UTC
I vote for a freighter only module that makes your cargo unscanable! *cough*

TwistedTwistedTwisted
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#37 - 2013-07-02 19:28:00 UTC
If you think Eve is harsh now, just let me into the CSM and I will aim to make Eve as it should be, none of this farming or safety nonsense.
Phish
Chaotic Dynamics
#38 - 2013-07-02 22:29:50 UTC
Phoenix Jones wrote:
Cans that hide cargo containers, they get blown up
Blockade runners, they get blown up
Anything that hides cargo, it gets blown up.

It's how it is. Adding it ingame makes you feel better, but won't make you any safer.


I drive my blockade runner through plenty of 0.5 between hub systems. Afk usually. Almost never been targeted let alone shot at.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#39 - 2013-07-03 11:20:35 UTC
anastasia kernsky wrote:
i my opinion the system is broke. what is the point of having freight cans if not to hide your contents that u are moving threw space. you all agents this are mad because you will lose more ships to trash ships and the good loot ships will be able to get by you because you will be hesitant to shoot them. a lot of you would lose your happy fun time if you couldn't kill a ship that you know you are going to get loot. i know there are some that gank because they want to (goons) and a few others trying to kill off competition.

whats the point of freight cans right now?


Freight cans allow you to sort your contents and keep things separated. That's what containers all around the world are good for.

You can already hide things like you asked for by double wrapping. If you think this helps keep your stuff safe, then do it.

Move along now.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#40 - 2013-07-03 11:22:49 UTC
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i think its time we haulers get something that protect us from getting ganked

Isn't carrying no more than the value of the ships required to gank you, plus the usual shields, armour and hull enough?

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
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