Jita Park Speakers Corner

I'd call you a backseat driver, but you're not even in the car.

You have no idea whatsoever if he's a no-show. Literally none. His posting activity on a forum is a tiny step above irrelevant.

Granted, I don't know if he's active or not either, but unlike you I haven't decided to act as if I do. If he's actually well and truly inactive without good reason, let the other sitting CSM members deal with it. They're the ones who will "suffer" by having a no-showing secretary.

FYI - I don't just use the forums as a metric. I even asked about Kesper at the Town Hall. Ripard took the question and said he'd try to address it in the blog, which hasn't happened. Where has Kesper appeared? Pretty much no where. If you have evidence to the contrary, something I missed, please educate me.

Trying to brow beat me into thinking I don't have the right to have an opinion isn't going to work. If that's all you got, you can stop posting.

I'd be perfectly happy to be proven wrong. I am rather interested in that grand plan of his. If he showed up now and started doing the job, I'd have no problem giving him the benefit of the doubt. As I said in my OP, it's easy to understand things overwhelming one's responsibilities here.

You saying that there's no proof that he's not active since we can see no signs of his activity is a bit odd though, a real stretch in logic. Demanding actual evidence that he is inactive is like asking me to disprove the flying spaghetti monster (may you be touched by his noodly appendage).

I am not actually demanding action, btw. I am raising a question if now is the time for action. I am stating what I do know, which is that all the other officers and several of the other CSM8 members have significantly higher visibility than this key member. Asking for confirmation or rebuttal. And asking if it is time to make a change.

Not entirely surprised you don't see the subtle difference. Although it is interesting that you criticized and questioned the CSM all of last year, but suddenly now shouting down others who want to know if there is something wrong at least when CFC candidates are questioned. Biased much?

You are a funny funny guy. No matter what others say about you.

I'll get right on that. And disprove God and the Easter Bunny right after.

I can actually prove quite a few CSM's level of activity, or at least provide varying levels of evidence to support that they are in fact active. The fact that I can't for Kesper is what begs the question.

Boorishly insisting that I prove a negative before speaking is a logical fallacy, and an intimidation tactic.

You are right on one level. We cannot know for sure. That's why asking questions is a good idea. That is what I did.

However, if you rephrase your question to: "Do we have enough information to form an opinion and ask good questions?"

The only reason the answer to that would be no, is if the CSM that ran on player communication failed to deliver that.

They did deliver. We can see from Ripard's and other's Blogs lists of CSMs doing various things. Xander's Podcasts. Podside appearances, Declarations of War Appearances, Ali's Space Hangouts, and more.

Kesper has remained the invisible man through out all of this.

I was pointed to his Twitter account today:
https://twitter.com/KesperNorth

Note that the most recent mention of CSM was acceptance of being voted in, although he appears to have been tweeting recently so he's still alive and well... that's good news.

Not that twitter alone should be any grounds to judge, but there is no media that I have been able to find that he's made himself present on and commented about any CSM activities. This includes the CSM Town Hall he was not present at.

I am not after his hide or even his office. I am sure there is a perfectly reasonable explanation. Even if it's a simple miscalculation of his available time or interest, I am not here to condemn him. There just seems to be a problem there, that bears some scrutiny.

Again, would be happy to be crushed with a scathing rebuttal that actually showed how wrong I was. For example, other CSM coming to his defense to say how much he's done behind the scenes, much as has been done for Trebor.

As for you, Snow Axe, I don't understand why you are so determined to hold the CSM immune from accountability since we "cannot know", that's utter nonsense in my book. That's not how elected representation works. Nor should we elect representatives and never talk to them or ask questions until the next election.

You are nakedly and without shame, promoting willful ignorance and apathy. This I do condemn.

I already asked a similar question to Ali, Mike, and Ripard a couple weeks ago. Here's what they said

LOL, have to say even though your commentary was actually pretty offensive, you made me bust out in laughter twice today. So I appreciate that.



Thanks for the pointer to that.

I had started listening to that episode but had a crash just before the relevant parts of the conversation, losing my place, and never got back to it. A pity as it was exactly what I was looking for.

For folks wanting to listen for themselves, the relevant part starts about 25 mins in.

Aleks asked the same questions I do. (But without the explicit mention that perhaps Kesper should step aside.) Does a great job of digging down to get some good answers.

Ripard and Ali talk about this Secretary deciding to be inward facing rather than outward. That he is somewhat active, but as Mike points out is in a major war. First big task is the Minutes. Ripard does say he wishes Kesper was a bit more active, but didn't feel like giving Kesper a hard time about it.

Aleks asks about the great plan, but really didn't get an answer. "Answered as best as can be at the moment. More soon(TM)"

Fair enough.

Kesper made a brief but content rich appearance on the latest Declarations of War as well