Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Frankly, my understanding was that it used completely separate design teams from the ones for traditional content, and this detail was not understood by everyone.

Make the ships better instead, or worded otherwise with the same meaning.
Yeah, I really don't believe incarna slowed down this aspect. I think they just borrowed aspects from some other CCP games to add more to EVE, and people made assumptions.

I am thinking the smoke cleared, and enough now understand this is parallel development that is not delaying the ship side improvements.

And seriously, it has the potential to be more entertaining than ship spinning. I wanna watch some of these avatars getting drunk and getting stupid in a bar...

Well, looking at some of the older avatar pictures I'm very thankful for Incarna. *cough*achuramales*cough*

I have searched for this "Leaked Internal Memo" high and low, but cannot find it. I had wanted to read it for myself.

As for microtransactions, I recall that when they were first mentioned CCP promised they would never ever bring microtransaction things into the game that were more than just vanity items. If they broke that promise, or even actually considered breaking it, I'd be upset too. Still, I want to read the memo for myself.

I like the discussion so far, does anyone have any ideas of how to try and get WiS content pushed back a little closer to the forefront? Besides maybe pestering the hell out everyone on the CSM to pester the hell out of everyone at CCP?

It sounds like they got some positive response at fanfest from what you said, so the idea is at least in their heads. I'd like to figure out a way to help that idea along, besides "make the bad things not have happened." lol

Thanks for your input. :)

i have some concepts about it:

1. allow us to see the inside of our ships:

this would mean a complete designing of every ship in the game, something really big, specially for titans, now, when in space we cannot do this, cause we have to keep piloting the ship, we cannot go out of the capsule while inside the ship. so it would be locked to see the inside and outside of the ship while docked. maybe allow us to ask for repairs or allow us to repair ourselves the damages in the ship via repair tool kits and that stuff.

2. station interiors:

outside of the CQ we could have a main hall where we could interact with other players, every service in the station would have its own room in the structure, maybe requiring to use elevators and that stuff, agents would have their own rooms and offices so we could go and ask mission directly with them.

3. player owned stores:

another type of "POS", inside stations or maybe in space structures (habitational modules?, anyone?), these could serve as a mean for players to put products on the market, and as places to buy things form it too, so i can see these little locals on the stations and players putting their own shops in them, some of them for vanity items, some others for character equipment (i'll explain it later) and those intended to ships would just show holographic catalogs of the modules (cause we cannot just put the turrets of a BS inside the station).

4. player equipment:

pretty much like what was done with DUST514, capsuleers could use their own equipment, clothes then would act as the first example of it, players could buy suits for different functionas and use a configuration like those of the drop suit.

5. ruins and hacking structures:

while some sites in space would require just the modules used by the ship, players sometimes would get into exploration sites which require to get into the playe in order to retrieve important objects, these ruins and hacking structures (sleeper buildings for example) would require to be force opened using the ship equipment, and after being opened, players would be able to get into them, this would mean the ship would have to dock in the structures, several players could dock in these sites, and explore the place, maybe you would find another explorer which doesnt want to share the rewards so it becomes a matter of killing or getting killed inside the structure.

6. planet interaction, REAL interaction:

right now the method used for planet interaction is lame, why?, well its just a new view with a game of putting structures and connecting them. this new way would shake the whole system. first, implementing a new structure the planet terminal, this orbital structure would allow players to dock their ships and use a shuttle or elevator to get down on the planet, while making seamless transitions between planet and space would be interesting, i dont think the server could deal with that, so it would be instanced.

instead of putting the structures while in orbit, players would be able to organize the management with their feet in the planet surface, via a new planet interface, which would use a map of the current region, new structures could be added, so players could build not only structures for industry, but this could open the door for player housing, planetary vehicles and real planet warfare, now its not only for a bunch of districts, it's also for the whole control of the planet resources, while capsuleer wouldnt be the ones doing it, it would be the DUST514 players acting as the planet militia.

using vehicles, players would be able to explore and scan the best places to build outposts and cities, certain planets, like those in high sec, those who have cities, would require empire permisions and taxes for being used in industry, maybe players would have to pay an isk fine for buying an apartment in Dam Torsad for example, or how about visiting the city of Caille, have you ever wondered how's to walk in the planet Pator?, this could be a possibility.

vehicles would have the same system as those used by DUST also.

7. starbases and outpost: they would have a system similar to those of the stations too.

8. character combat:

dont want to risk your ship in a duel?, but you want to actually ***** slap that guy?, well it should be possible, extending the dueling system for having fights with other players in the station, you died?, who cares, you have a clone for it. use the fists or get a weapon for it, a gentlemens duel, 10 steps and bang with your gun. this could also be extended for FWs, rats and other stuff, how about fighting some angels when trying to hack their outpost in the inside?, hey, this structure is infested with drones, looks like i'll need to take a gun for this.

9. interacting with your professions:

-manufacturers could explore and manage their own production lines in the factory, maybe allow them to see the production of the ships

-mission runners could explore certain mission structures for certain missions, they would also be able to talk with the agents and of course, certain mission would require infiltrating and killing criminals inside these places.

- pirates and criminals could use their structures as traps for unwary travellers, hey the guy docked right?, well you kill him there and get the pass to the ship room, he's travelling on a planet without escort?, too late, give me your isk or else, you know what?, you have a clone for it, bang! >:)

-miners could put their feet on huge asteroids and plant structures there, more convenient than leaving the strip miners all day, maybe revamping the whole moon mining system, its not about a gigantic laser anymore, you have to build an actual base there.

-factional warfarers could fight for the space structures in enemy territory, your ihub is in danger, grab your guns and a suit, the enemy breached the structure defenses and are leaking inside.

(it continues)

bumping for discussion

Well at least it shouldn't be PVE vs PVP.

With a nice dose of tongue-in-cheek I have to point out though that. let's face it, we all like to be assholes sometimes, and Eve permits more of that than many other games. Aside from unpunished scamming, PVP is the "best" (or "worst" depending on your PoV) way to be an as$hole in this game. Maybe it's not totally illogical to then conclude that whatever CCP plans, most echoes to the plans will be from PVP assholes. It's kind of just human (well Eve human) nature

I mean, just look at any feedback thread to any change or release of Eve since approximately forever. There's a difference between valid criticism and the deluge of curses and insults let loose every damn time.

Methinks action needs to be taken on both sides. First, players should crank down a bit from always assuming the worst whenever something seems to be in planning that isn't "boosting my favorite ship" or such. On the other side, maybe CCP needs to try and get a more complete and all-encompassing picture of what "the players" really think. Yes both takes a lot of work, but it may well be worth it. There's only one way to find out.

That said, I damn fooking want to see more avatar stuff too! Well either that or just drop it altogether, because the just-a-bit-of-it state we're at now seems more silly to me the more I think of it...

I believe this is what you are looking for:

Fearless Newsletter

It's an internal CCP newsletter used to circulate and discuss game design ideas..