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Matt Scum
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-11-04 11:53:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Matt Scum
Hello fellow capsuleers,

When I last played EVE I tried being a pirate, found a nice corp but soon recognized I needed Iskies to buy Rifters, so I got a missioning alt into a Drake and didnt resub because its just so mindnumbingly boring to "mine hulls".

This time I want to take an alternate approach to EVE. I read threads like this one Advice on New Player's ships and I want to take the Frigate Route. Im training for Core Competency Standard Certificate right now and plan on going for T2 Frigates afterwards (AF, CovOps, Bombers).
I want to fight small-scale PVP, mostly solo (I dont exactly know what I want to do in EVE so I dont want a new corp yet, I think)
I want to explore (I really enjoy this, but I dont want to only explore in Highsec)
I want to fly wherever I want to fly, be it High, Low or Nullsec ( thats why Im going for Cloaking and later Blockade Runner too, so I can set up my base of operations wherever I want

Now my Sec Status is -4.4 which means access to 0.5 right? And If I want to improve it I need to Rat.. in a Frigate/Dessie.. Is there even a point to that?

Where should I start? Can I actually have fun exploring and roaming whenever I feel like it without a corp to back me up? Most of Lowsec seemed to be either baits, blobs or armed-to-the-teeth-T2 Pilots ripping me a new one. Any advice? Can I explore with CovOps + Frigs/Dessies (AF soon) or should I wait for cruisers to attempt them?

eveboard character sheet btw

Am I forgetting something?
Any advice will be heartily appreciated and thank you for taking the time to read this, I dont have internet at home for another 2 weeks, writing this from university so I cant answer right away :)

fly safe, dangerous, backwards or however you feel like flying and if youre Minmater, hopefully the duct tape holds ;)

o7

- Matt S.

Edit: fixed eveboard link
Aida Nu
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-11-04 13:03:59 UTC
Doing solo roams and lowsec exploring is very viable.
Im 3 weeks old and thats exactly what im doing. Im also doing random wardecs in highsec.
Everything solo.
Your playstyle is exactly what im doing and I enjoy it.
-4.4 limits your to 0.5 systems.
You can increase your standing by ratting in lowsec or just fint a NPC corp to do missions for in lowsec and start grinding :)
Dervinus
LowKey Ops
Shadow Cartel
#3 - 2011-11-04 14:04:04 UTC
One thing to do to help your sec status is to train your social skills up. I cant remember which social skill it is, but there is one which helps with your sec status gains I believe. Might want to try that out. Otherwise, I would perhaps try to find a quiet lowsec pocket somewhere with some missions you can do to gain back some sec status. You dont need to grind missions mind numbingly - who would want to put themselves through such punishment - but if you do that here and there you can get your sec back. At the same time every 5-10 missions or whatever you like, you could do some scanning to see if there were any sites that you could check out to make extra isk. Another thing to consider is to make your own 1 man corp instead of staying in the newbie corp. The advantage here is that you can avoid taxes, and if you choose, wardec people from time to time. I am sure you could fashion yourself a nice little life down in lowsec doing this sort of thing.

Of course, Its not what I would do, as I think Eve is horrible without flying with other people, but to each his own. I personally, would not care about sec status and just find a 0.0 Alliance to join and move out to their space. That way you can get some people to fly with, a nice area of space to make isk in, and still have the freedom to roam around in small gangs or solo.

o7 toonies
tempus deathbringer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-11-04 14:24:17 UTC
man you are a mirror image of me, you should read up on my posts on exploration and this thread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=27094&find=unread

I did nothing but mission running for 2 years of eve, constantly unsubbing when i got bored after a month or so.

I still havent found a corp, and my biggest suggestion on that is to take your time and find the "right" one. You are trying to get back on track and don't know what you wanna do , so the right one probably isnt going to just pop up till you find out what you want to do in eve.

I am in the process of getting exploration going atm. I am starting in high sec while i learn it, my goal is 1 month in high sec and then i should have some decent isk and some decent experience.

i would start here

http://explorationalmanac.blogspot.com/2010/06/preface.html

out of all the guides on exploration this one really outlined it for me. Its easy to read, just follow the links on each day. I read the whole thing and it helped more than anything i have found on exploration.

im not very familiar with sec status, since i've yet to leave high sec. My goal is to move to low/null and do dangerous exploration while pvp'ing.

at, your 2mil sp, you may even think about just re-rolling too. i don't know what you have stashed in your unallocated though but taht can really get you moving in the right direction if it's a substantial amount.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-11-06 21:09:18 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Dervinus wrote:
One thing to do to help your sec status is to train your social skills up. I cant remember which social skill it is, but there is one which helps with your sec status gains I believe. Might want to try that out.


That would be the skill Fast Talk. Basically that will increase the amount of security status gained for killing the single most highest bounty NPC within a 20 minute time limit. That timer can be reset to 0 by jumping to another system. The trick is to find a few systems that are connected and just go to each one.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Not_getting_security_status_gains

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Belt_rat_spawns

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ratting_tactics

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Matt Scum
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-11-07 13:38:31 UTC
.. Again forum deleted everything I posted when I pressed "Post".

Well, thank all of you for the help and input, what I read here sounds exactly like what I was looking for.
I guess I'll try keeping this character and ratting my sec status up.
Ill create my own 1man corp and maybe when I can fit & fly T2 Frigs I will look for a Nullsec corp and see if it suits me :)

btw, my training plan for the next year would look roughly like this:

Skill plan for Matt Scum

Quote:

1. Minmatar Frigate V
2. Jury Rigging III
3. Projectile Weapon Rigging I
4. Projectile Weapon Rigging II
5. Projectile Weapon Rigging III
6. Covert Ops I
7. Covert Ops II
8. Covert Ops III
9. Covert Ops IV
10. Cloaking I
11. Cloaking II
12. Cloaking III
13. Cloaking IV
14. Archaeology I
15. Hacking I
16. Archaeology II
17. Hacking II
18. Astrometric Rangefinding I
19. Astrometric Rangefinding II
20. Astrometric Rangefinding III
21. Astrometrics III
22. Astrometrics IV
23. Astrometric Pinpointing I
24. Astrometric Pinpointing II
25. Astrometric Pinpointing III
26. Astrometric Acquisition I
27. Astrometric Acquisition II
28. Astrometric Acquisition III
29. Engineering V
30. Science IV
31. Thermodynamics I
32. Thermodynamics II
33. Thermodynamics III
34. Mechanic IV
35. Mechanic V
36. Assault Ships I
37. Assault Ships II
38. Assault Ships III
39. Assault Ships IV
40. Energy Systems Operation V
41. Energy Management IV
42. Energy Grid Upgrades IV
43. Hull Upgrades IV
44. Shield Management IV
45. Electronics V
46. Energy Grid Upgrades V
47. Hull Upgrades V
48. Shield Operation IV
49. Shield Operation V
50. Missile Bombardment I
51. Missile Bombardment II
52. Missile Bombardment III
53. Missile Bombardment IV
54. Bomb Deployment I
55. Heavy Missiles I
56. Heavy Missiles II
57. Heavy Missiles III
58. Missile Launcher Operation IV
59. Torpedoes I
60. Torpedoes II
61. Torpedoes III
62. Torpedoes IV
63. Heavy Missiles IV
64. Long Range Targeting III
65. Long Range Targeting IV
66. Targeting V
67. Multitasking I
68. Spaceship Command IV
69. Navigation IV
70. Warp Drive Operation III
71. Astrometric Rangefinding IV
72. Astrometric Pinpointing IV
73. Astrometric Acquisition IV
74. Archaeology III
75. Archaeology IV
76. Hacking III
77. Hacking IV
78. Drones I
79. Drones II
80. Drones III
81. Combat Drone Operation I
82. Combat Drone Operation II
83. Weapon Upgrades V
84. Advanced Weapon Upgrades I
85. Advanced Weapon Upgrades II
86. Advanced Weapon Upgrades III
87. Advanced Weapon Upgrades IV
88. Energy Management V
89. Shield Management V
90. Navigation V
91. Spaceship Command V
92. Acceleration Control IV
93. Afterburner IV
94. Evasive Maneuvering IV
95. Fuel Conservation IV
96. High Speed Maneuvering III
97. High Speed Maneuvering IV
98. Warp Drive Operation IV
99. Motion Prediction IV
100. Rapid Firing IV
101. Sharpshooter IV
102. Surgical Strike IV
103. Trajectory Analysis IV
104. Projectile Weapon Rigging IV
105. Repair Systems IV
106. Thermodynamics IV
107. Drones IV
108. Drones V
109. Drone Navigation I
110. Drone Navigation II
111. Drone Navigation III
112. Drone Navigation IV
113. Drone Durability I
114. Drone Durability II
115. Drone Durability III
116. Scout Drone Operation I
117. Scout Drone Operation II
118. Scout Drone Operation III
119. Scout Drone Operation IV
120. Scout Drone Operation V
121. Drone Interfacing I
122. Drone Interfacing II
123. Drone Interfacing III
124. Combat Drone Operation III
125. Combat Drone Operation IV
126. Rapid Firing V
127. Motion Prediction V
128. Medium Projectile Turret I
129. Medium Projectile Turret II
130. Medium Projectile Turret III
131. Medium Projectile Turret IV
132. Medium Projectile Turret V
133. Medium Autocannon Specialization I
134. Medium Autocannon Specialization II
135. Medium Autocannon Specialization III
136. Medium Autocannon Specialization IV
137. Minmatar Cruiser I
138. Minmatar Cruiser II
139. Minmatar Cruiser III
140. Minmatar Cruiser IV
141. Battlecruisers I
142. Battlecruisers II
143. Battlecruisers III
144. Battlecruisers IV
145. Heavy Assault Ships I
146. Heavy Assault Ships II
147. Heavy Assault Ships III
148. Heavy Assault Ships IV
149. Small Artillery Specialization I
150. Small Artillery Specialization II
151. Small Artillery Specialization III
152. Small Artillery Specialization IV
153. Medium Artillery Specialization I
154. Medium Artillery Specialization II
155. Medium Artillery Specialization III
156. Medium Artillery Specialization IV
157. Sharpshooter V
158. Surgical Strike V
159. Trajectory Analysis V


Total time: 350 days, 18 hours, 4 minutes, 12 seconds


anything you would definitely change? Remap is advised I take it? Never done it though, guess I will go with 22 Int 26 Per 17 rest (slightly faster in the first half of the year, slightly slower in the 2nd.. would cut on the time of the fitting skills a little more though; 21-27-17 would be best following EVEHQ and EVEMON)

Lastly, which ship would you recommend for clearing the sites and rats? Destroyers or Assault Ships? (Ships of those I can fly in due time)

Again, thank all of you. Maybe we will meet someday, guns blazing or not

Have fun

- Matt S.


PS: I am reading all the links you post, thanks :)
Chal0ner
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#7 - 2011-11-07 14:13:03 UTC
You'd need racial cruiser V before going HAC.

(God, that's a long list ... thank [] my alt has already done most of it)

T2/Faction cruisers are great fun tho.
Dervinus
LowKey Ops
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2011-11-07 16:21:36 UTC
TBH I would push at least cruiser and battle cruiser skills up further in your list with the necessary gunnery skills. You dont need to max these out early, but I would at least get the cruiser to IV and BC to III as well as medium turrets to IV soon. The thing is, as much fun as flying frigates is, eventually you are going to want to get into something bigger. Waiting nearly a year to do so is totally unnecessary and will probably bore you to death. Getting into a BC earlier will give you better options for making isk via ratting, anomolies, exploration etc. Besides, that looks like you will be getting some nice skill training done.

o7 toonies
Matt Scum
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-11-08 11:51:09 UTC
Dervinus wrote:
TBH I would push at least cruiser and battle cruiser skills up further in your list with the necessary gunnery skills. You dont need to max these out early, but I would at least get the cruiser to IV and BC to III as well as medium turrets to IV soon. The thing is, as much fun as flying frigates is, eventually you are going to want to get into something bigger. Waiting nearly a year to do so is totally unnecessary and will probably bore you to death. Getting into a BC earlier will give you better options for making isk via ratting, anomolies, exploration etc. Besides, that looks like you will be getting some nice skill training done.


Sounds reasonable.. I guess I will queue Cruisers/BCs and Medium Turrets ~behind Assault Frigates, if I need a little more Grid / CPU / survivability I'll squeeze in some more fitting skills before that.

So the list itself is ok, just getting to Cruisers/BCs sooner would probably be profitable, thanks :)

now my fingers are itching, cant wait for my internet to come back up :)
First time in EVE that I really want to do something, having the skills or not rather than waiting for skills and doing stuff in the meantime or not. Guess I am on the right path.

May space be rewarding for all of us

- Matt S.
Ruban Spangler
TEMPLAR.
The Initiative.
#10 - 2011-11-08 21:12:09 UTC
Take a look at FW. You can remain in an NPC corp. It's nullsec which is good for your sec status (and exploration) and there are plenty of fights on offer (not always good ones).