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Jump Freighter Ganking - CCP what you will do against this???

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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#201 - 2013-07-02 19:47:04 UTC
Elder TheRock wrote:
NEXT sensless Jumpfreighter was ganked by Goons

Cargovalue: 1.2 bil

CCP you want this kind of "pvp"....if yes, you will lost all old players
which gave your game the chance to grow 10 years ago!


I play now over 8 years Eve....but now its over for me....

and all other players who want to tell me: "why you re so dump and fly in highsec with your Jumpfreighter"

It was not my, it was only a good friend in my corporation....the second one in the last 2 month....

we will quit now....


THANKYOU CCP
Regards
Tom


You might be able to pay real money soon to buy protection.
P2W - Pay to Win.
Pay $5, your "WIN" button goes active for 15 minutes. Pressing it makes you invulnerable for those 15 minutes.
Just sayin'
Being a bit sarcastic 'n stuff.

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Short Stack122
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#202 - 2013-07-02 19:52:15 UTC
i think i would look good in a JF...

OP, can i buy your account for 1isk? i wont whine if i get ganked, i promise
Istyn
Freight Club
#203 - 2013-07-02 20:27:23 UTC
Callyuk wrote:
Even if you did bump it theyll just jump out . they always use a jump freightor or 2


... so why don't you do that instead of complaining about JFs getting ganked?
Callyuk
M1A12 Corp
#204 - 2013-07-02 21:24:06 UTC
Istyn wrote:
Callyuk wrote:
Even if you did bump it theyll just jump out . they always use a jump freightor or 2


... so why don't you do that instead of complaining about JFs getting ganked?



The freighter in question that got anked in the video isnt a jf therefore dosent apply to me . however if u were so fortunate not to have a cyno available (fail jf pilot) then the same would apply to him
Phish
Chaotic Dynamics
#205 - 2013-07-02 22:17:31 UTC
Honestly it is a very stupid mechanic. To let a bunch of ships that total less then 30M kill a freighter. There needs to be a way to fight back on the freighters side, so if your AFK your dead but if your active and there you can so something with at least a chance of saving your ship. (a chance, doesn't have to be 100%, but at least 50% would be nice)
Balthasar Moreq
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#206 - 2013-07-02 22:30:32 UTC
Elder TheRock wrote:
NEXT sensless Jumpfreighter was ganked by Goons

Cargovalue: 1.2 bil

CCP you want this kind of "pvp"....if yes, you will lost all old players
which gave your game the chance to grow 10 years ago!


I play now over 8 years Eve....but now its over for me....

and all other players who want to tell me: "why you re so dump and fly in highsec with your Jumpfreighter"

It was not my, it was only a good friend in my corporation....the second one in the last 2 month....

we will quit now....


THANKYOU CCP
Regards
Tom


0/10 Troll attempt.
Mark Androcius
#207 - 2013-07-02 22:38:00 UTC
Dear OP, stop working for TEST, or any of their affiliated high-sec friends, problem solved.

Another thing, you do know ALL null alliances have high sec hauler corp friends or even hauler alt corps, to do their hauling.
Why don't you just figure out who they are, where they go and where they come from and return the favor maybe? just a suggestion.

Perhaps a little to much effort though.

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Callyuk
M1A12 Corp
#208 - 2013-07-02 22:44:43 UTC
That's definitely a desire . NADO fleet some goon alt JF's empty ones of course . i just don't have a spai in goons . So i don't know who or where to catch em. And i wouldn't sit on a gate all day waiting for one to come through. I suppose the only remedy to that would be to BLAP every one you see and hope that that one belonged to a GOON
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#209 - 2013-07-02 22:47:20 UTC
Balthasar Moreq wrote:
Elder TheRock wrote:
NEXT sensless Jumpfreighter was ganked by Goons

Cargovalue: 1.2 bil

CCP you want this kind of "pvp"....if yes, you will lost all old players
which gave your game the chance to grow 10 years ago!


I play now over 8 years Eve....but now its over for me....

and all other players who want to tell me: "why you re so dump and fly in highsec with your Jumpfreighter"

It was not my, it was only a good friend in my corporation....the second one in the last 2 month....

we will quit now....


THANKYOU CCP
Regards
Tom


0/10 Troll attempt.


this

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Short Stack122
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#210 - 2013-07-02 22:59:44 UTC
Phish wrote:
Honestly it is a very stupid mechanic. To let a bunch of ships that total less then 30M kill a freighter. There needs to be a way to fight back on the freighters side, so if your AFK your dead but if your active and there you can so something with at least a chance of saving your ship. (a chance, doesn't have to be 100%, but at least 50% would be nice)


there is a system, its called having friends.
Callyuk
M1A12 Corp
#211 - 2013-07-02 23:30:46 UTC
Short Stack122 wrote:
Phish wrote:
Honestly it is a very stupid mechanic. To let a bunch of ships that total less then 30M kill a freighter. There needs to be a way to fight back on the freighters side, so if your AFK your dead but if your active and there you can so something with at least a chance of saving your ship. (a chance, doesn't have to be 100%, but at least 50% would be nice)


there is a system, its called having friends.


your friends cant hold your hand every step of the way through eve

Get real man. the ganking mechanic for freighters in high sec is broken
ReZoon
The Exchange Collective
Solyaris Chtonium
#212 - 2013-07-02 23:40:59 UTC
What's the risk of flying a JF in high sec?


What's the risk of attacking a JF in high sec?



BALANCE
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#213 - 2013-07-02 23:40:59 UTC
While I don't condone ganks, I believe everyone should be able to defend them selves. Even a freighter. Easiest solution is giving freighters the option to haul faster and have less Ehp, or Haul slower and have more Ehp.

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Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#214 - 2013-07-02 23:43:22 UTC
Elder TheRock wrote:
NEXT sensless Jumpfreighter was ganked by Goons

Cargovalue: 1.2 bil

CCP you want this kind of "pvp"....if yes, you will lost all old players
which gave your game the chance to grow 10 years ago!


I play now over 8 years Eve....but now its over for me....

and all other players who want to tell me: "why you re so dump and fly in highsec with your Jumpfreighter"

It was not my, it was only a good friend in my corporation....the second one in the last 2 month....

we will quit now....


THANKYOU CCP
Regards
Tom



Give me all your stuff. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

PS: this could have been avoided if you'd used a scout and made instawarp bookmarks.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Callyuk
M1A12 Corp
#215 - 2013-07-02 23:50:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Callyuk
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Elder TheRock wrote:
NEXT sensless Jumpfreighter was ganked by Goons

Cargovalue: 1.2 bil

CCP you want this kind of "pvp"....if yes, you will lost all old players
which gave your game the chance to grow 10 years ago!


I play now over 8 years Eve....but now its over for me....

and all other players who want to tell me: "why you re so dump and fly in highsec with your Jumpfreighter"

It was not my, it was only a good friend in my corporation....the second one in the last 2 month....

we will quit now....


THANKYOU CCP
Regards
Tom



Give me all your stuff. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

PS: this could have been avoided if you'd used a scout and made instawarp bookmarks.


There are no such things as insta warps in a freighter/capitals but when undocking if you jump through a stargate and your 12-15km away from the gate and you been picked you're just fu***d end of story. Thats not the problem though. The problem is the game new mechanics allows gankers to gank 1 billion capitals carrying anything from nothing to 50 billion in 5 seconds with 30 t2 fit t1 destroyers after concord and gate guns are out of the equation due to it being bumped off the grid of the stargate
Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#216 - 2013-07-02 23:57:53 UTC
Freaking Goons....Tear Extraction Professionals
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#217 - 2013-07-02 23:59:53 UTC
Callyuk wrote:
There are no such things as insta warps in a freighter/capitals
Yes there is. They behave no differently than any other ship and can use an insta bookmark same as everything else.

Quote:
when undocking if you jump through a stargate and your 12-15km away from the gate and you been picked you're just fu***d end of story.
…unless you use insta-warping webbing ships, in which case you get into warp in, oh, 2s flat.

Quote:
The problem is the game new mechanics allows gankers to gank 1 billion capitals carrying anything from nothing to 50 billion in 5 seconds with 30 t2 fit t1 destroyers after concord and gate guns are out of the equation due to it being bumped off the grid of the stargate
None of that is true. They can't do it in 5 seconds, especially not with something as puny as 30 destroyers; neither CONCORD nor gate guns are out of the question (in fact, their presence is exactly what they have to compensate for); and none of it is actually a problem since there are plenty of counters to it.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#218 - 2013-07-03 00:06:14 UTC
Callyuk wrote:
The problem is the mechanics allow 30 people to gank 1 person. Also totally obvious lie about how long it takes.


I fixed this for you.

This is what this all boils down to. 30 guys killed one guy, and you think it's unfair because he flew an expensive ship and they didn't. That's all this is.

You are so wrong it's hard to describe it adequately in English.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Short Stack122
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#219 - 2013-07-03 00:08:35 UTC
Kult Altol wrote:
While I don't condone ganks, I believe everyone should be able to defend them selves. Even a freighter. Easiest solution is giving freighters the option to haul faster and have less Ehp, or Haul slower and have more Ehp.


dont worry, CCP has thought of that and created the Iteron/baders and the freighter/JF classes...

now i see why tears are so easy to come by, most people dont think too hard
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#220 - 2013-07-03 00:13:44 UTC
Short Stack122 wrote:
Kult Altol wrote:
While I don't condone ganks, I believe everyone should be able to defend them selves. Even a freighter. Easiest solution is giving freighters the option to haul faster and have less Ehp, or Haul slower and have more Ehp.

dont worry, CCP has thought of that and created the Iteron/baders and the freighter/JF classes...

now i see why tears are so easy to come by, most people dont think too hard

…not to mention that, since I suspect that Kult is talking about giving it a lowslot, doing so would mean quite a significant nerf to freighters, and I don't thing anyone is really after that. Well, the gankers might approve, but that's about it.