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CCP Games Announces Former EA Executive Sean Decker as Senior Vice President

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#161 - 2013-07-02 17:09:57 UTC
Anna Djan wrote:


How long before you see frank scamming in jita?


Our job is to rehabilitate Frank.
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#162 - 2013-07-02 17:10:43 UTC

Intar Medris wrote:
The best they could do was hire a guy from EA. EA is only good at one thing ... marketing. As far as games go they suck. Without Madden, NCAA, and The Sims EA would sink faster the Titanic. Not to mention this guy was VP of their P4F division. Makes you wonder if CCP is considering P4F again.


That is quite an interesting argument you have constructed there. I read it as "EA sucks because they only focus on marketing and make ****** games. They would be out of business except for this list of rather good and successful games..."

The merits of the guys career aside, in case you havent noticed, marketing has been something that CCP has been rather bad at in the course of EvE. And since more subs = more money, and more money means more staff. There is a good chance that better marketing would actually accelerate EvE's development cycle and deliver all of that stuff they promised, sooner. It could mean bigger expansions and better artwork. And it could also mean that the doors to the captain's quarters will open before EvE enters its third decade.
andy Achasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#163 - 2013-07-02 17:11:39 UTC
Frank Frank Frank Frank Frank Frank Frank Frank Frank Frank
Siresa Talesi
Doomheim
#164 - 2013-07-02 17:13:44 UTC
In a way, this is bitterly ironic. The last game published by EA that I bought and played was Earth & Beyond. After EA deliberately destroyed that game because they had no interest in supporting it, I did two things. First, I swore off EA games (a boycott which stands firm to this day), and second, I found EVE.

Now, the shadow of EA has followed me here. Yes, it's just one person, a former employee, not the company itself, and we have no idea how much of the EA "culture" he brings with him. Things may turn out great, they may be terrible, it's far too early to tell. I'm not jumping ship over this just yet, but I will be watching apprehensively for the next while to see how this all turns out, keeping one finger near the unsub button just in case.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#165 - 2013-07-02 17:14:51 UTC
RomeStar wrote:
Funny how one Dev has posted on this and it was just to say eve will live on.
Just for clarification, part of my responsibility is forum moderation and that also involves investigating if our forum rules are followed or not - independent of the raised questions and replies. I want to remind everyone that your feedback is welcome and always will be welcome, but it needs to be constructive and must not contain gross insults or personal attacks. I ask everyone to respect our forum rules when posting here.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer
Homo Jesus
The LGBT Last Supper
#166 - 2013-07-02 17:15:34 UTC
Let's just hope Frank didn't jump on board for the golden parachute.
Tyrendian Biohazard
The Bastards
Sedition.
#167 - 2013-07-02 17:17:09 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Anna Djan wrote:


How long before you see frank scamming in jita?


Our job is to rehabilitate Frank.



You, sir, have inspired me to redo my sig.

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Miss Relina
The Untraceable
M A R A K U G A
#168 - 2013-07-02 17:19:00 UTC
I think I will start early on the monument. Get in a good orbit while there is room.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#169 - 2013-07-02 17:20:14 UTC
MailDeadDrop wrote:
Edit: third possibility: EA let Sean go with the express intent of having CCP hire him. Perhaps that was the plan between EA and CCP all along, but before I bite into that heaping helping of paranoia and collusion you're going to have to provide a little more evidence.


Probably not.

It's probably all to help DUST. CCP has to make it work, because they're right, a lot for CCP rides on it being successful .

PC gaming is on the decline. Activision-Blizzard warned it's investors of this in the last stock report (no doubt because EA went to war with PC gaming to stamp out piracy, and pushed console development).

The 2004 games are hit the worst because they were never designed with consoles in mind. It'll take MMO 2.0 before that is possible, and we just learned that Blizzard cancelled development of Titan, and will be starting from scratch again. EQNext is another MMO 2.0 title, and folks will get a chance to see what they're upto later this year. But Titan was the major title folks were looking forward to, because despite everything, Blizzard takes time to get it right. They have excellent production values. So we're stuck with these 2004 MMOs until then (probably 2017), and for other publishers catch up after they see what's on the plate.

MMOs are in a hiatus period of development. Two major titles tried to break the chokehold of WoW, both on life support within 2 years. Investors aren't going to invest in another title like that again, until Titan comes out and shows them what the next gen offers.

I can't say I'm happy with this choice, but you got to do what you got to do for another 3 to 4 years. And for CCP, DUST has to work.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
darmwand
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#170 - 2013-07-02 17:20:36 UTC
Shizuken wrote:

The merits of the guys career aside, in case you havent noticed, marketing has been something that CCP has been rather bad at in the course of EvE. And since more subs = more money, and more money means more staff. There is a good chance that better marketing would actually accelerate EvE's development cycle and deliver all of that stuff they promised, sooner. It could mean bigger expansions and better artwork. And it could also mean that the doors to the captain's quarters will open before EvE enters its third decade.


I agree, if this is just about advertisement then it might be a good thing. However, after hiring somebody with a strong background in F2P and a history in projects like the recent Sim City installation I can't help being a bit worried.

I for one won't do any long-term subscriptions for now and probably move some laser ships close to monuments. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Some kind of statement from CCP would be nice but I wouldn't hold my breath.

"The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp."
darmwand
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#171 - 2013-07-02 17:23:22 UTC  |  Edited by: darmwand
Ace Uoweme wrote:

PC gaming is on the decline.


Continuously repeating this won't make it any more true, http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/28/pc-gaming-in-still-not-dead-shocker/

Edit: wrong link

"The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp."
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#172 - 2013-07-02 17:26:14 UTC
darmwand wrote:
I for one won't do any long-term subscriptions for now and probably move some laser ships close to monuments. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see what happens.


Move said ships closer to newbie systems. If the **** does indeed hit the fans, and this new Senior-VP convinces/drives CCP to compromise what makes EvE EvE for the sake of "drawing in new players," suicide-ganking those very new players would be a much stronger statement.

Attracting new players is one thing, and is an admirable ambition. Sacrificing everything that makes EvE unique and turning it into another pump'n'dump game in order to do so is not.

For the Newbies: The 8 Golden Rules - The Magic 14 Skills - Finding the Right Corp - EVE University Wiki
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#173 - 2013-07-02 17:27:54 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
RomeStar wrote:
Funny how one Dev has posted on this and it was just to say eve will live on.
Just for clarification, part of my responsibility is forum moderation and that also involves investigating if our forum rules are followed or not - independent of the raised questions and replies. I want to remind everyone that your feedback is welcome and always will be welcome, but it needs to be constructive and must not contain gross insults or personal attacks. I ask everyone to respect our forum rules when posting here.


When will Frank be saying hello to us?
handige harrie
Vereenigde Handels Compagnie
#174 - 2013-07-02 17:28:53 UTC  |  Edited by: handige harrie
Guess EVE will have mandatory online soon™,

this does explain the bloated new launcher however

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#175 - 2013-07-02 17:29:55 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:
RomeStar wrote:
Funny how one Dev has posted on this and it was just to say eve will live on.
Just for clarification, part of my responsibility is forum moderation and that also involves investigating if our forum rules are followed or not - independent of the raised questions and replies. I want to remind everyone that your feedback is welcome and always will be welcome, but it needs to be constructive and must not contain gross insults or personal attacks. I ask everyone to respect our forum rules when posting here.


When will Frank be saying hello to us?


Soon ™

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Enyeto Perah
#176 - 2013-07-02 17:30:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Enyeto Perah
baltec1 wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:
RomeStar wrote:
Funny how one Dev has posted on this and it was just to say eve will live on.
Just for clarification, part of my responsibility is forum moderation and that also involves investigating if our forum rules are followed or not - independent of the raised questions and replies. I want to remind everyone that your feedback is welcome and always will be welcome, but it needs to be constructive and must not contain gross insults or personal attacks. I ask everyone to respect our forum rules when posting here.


When will Frank be saying hello to us?


Why should he? We are only consumers...

Oh, and as a proof, here's a video where he calls gamers just that. "Consumers".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oDEcESAx-4

Say NO to CCP-EA.

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darmwand
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#177 - 2013-07-02 17:32:17 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:

Move said ships closer to newbie systems. If the **** does indeed hit the fans, and this new Senior-VP convinces/drives CCP to compromise what makes EvE EvE for the sake of "drawing in new players," suicide-ganking those very new players would be a much stronger statement.


While so far I've never really high-sec-ganked anyone, this could indeed make me start.

"The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp."
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#178 - 2013-07-02 17:35:24 UTC
darmwand wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:

PC gaming is on the decline.


Continuously repeating this won't make it any more true, http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/28/pc-gaming-in-still-not-dead-shocker/

Edit: wrong link


I'm not saying it because I like it, I'm saying it backed up with evidence.

When the #1 game publisher says it's on the decline, and offers the financials...yeah, it's on the decline.

You can put lipstick on the pig. You can dress it up to look like a cow, but the numbers show the decline.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Ryunosuke Kusanagi
#179 - 2013-07-02 17:36:41 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
Thorn Galen wrote:
and here I was, really looking forward to another 10 years of EVE Online.
I guess that dream is now in jeopardy.

I wouldn't bet on just only 10 more years ... in fact I am looking forwards to a couple more decades!

That said, please keep your feedback and discussions in this thread polite and reasonable. Personal attacks, insults or other forum rule violations should be avoided, thank you!



EA isn't known to be the most user friendly company in gaming for ... the last 5 years or so(?). So for CCP which has had it's fair share of hiccups in PR (Monoclegate) but has learned from those mistakes, and started to listen to it's players and is one of the more user friendly gaming companies out there, this decision makes little sense. I have nothing against the man himself, however, by association with EA, well... lie down with dogs, wake up with their flees type of scenario. Just saying.

Also, it would probbably be a good idea for "someone" or more ideally, a few someones to put out some dev blogs explaining this decision. Calm fears etc.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#180 - 2013-07-02 17:37:08 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:


I'm not saying it because I like it, I'm saying it backed up with evidence.

When the #1 game publisher says it's on the decline, and offers the financials...yeah, it's on the decline.

You can put lipstick on the pig. You can dress it up to look like a cow, but the numbers show the decline.


IBM said they would only sell 5 computers once.