EVE General Discussion

I think this describes best how I think most of us feel, at least at this point.

What do you think?

I'm not sure where the subscription model is outdated thing comes from? EVE has half a million subs, SWTOR has half a million subs, WoW has multi million subs and there are several MMOs still active, that have subs as an option and are very profitable. Excluding WoW these numbers are much better than old MMOs ever reached. Even many of the F2P games like SWTOR have subs and a lot of people pay it gladly. The thing many game makers have discovered is, that there isn't reason for them to limit themselves to subs. The hybrid models retain that option, but also allow increased income to be milked from "free" players and normal subscribers. They're just expanding their payment options in order to gain increased revenue from the same amount of created content.

The problem and advantage of EVE is, that it's a multi-player sandbox with a player lead market and industry. It's a problem because most of the F2P model money grabbing schemes can't work here without ruining the current game by directly ruining large gameplay areas or the competitive aspect of the game. It's an advantage because you can't replicate EVE easily or in a F2P model, so it doesn't have and might never have a direct F2P competitor. It's worth a sub to a large group of players, since there aren't tens of F2P alternatives, that offer the exact same gameplay and options in one neat package. So I don't think there is anything outdated in having a subscription or even a sub only game, but in order for sub only option to work, you really need to offer an experience the myriad of F2P alternatives have difficulty competing with.

Wait... that happened? (maybe I should have followed the news more during that time instead of unsubbing)

A bit early for that, although I always keep that as an option.

First mention of "DLC" and I'm jumping off of this boat

EA doesn't listen to anyone, period. All that time I was on their forums IF an EA representative posted anything was to post some official message. One sided convo only.

But it's the one game company that doesn't ban you for posting your views. That is not the case of MMO sites, which would ban if you sneezed.

True. I will "Watch what they do, not what they say."

The min things turn sour though I am out as there are other space games due out in 2014 that I would like to at least try anyway.

If CCP wants to tackle the 800lb gorilla in the room to have some presence in the MMO industry, they have to make friends with Activision-Blizzard's enemy, and that's EA.

So in EvE terms, Gallente is teaming up with Caldari.

Well, the good news.....and I never thought I'd say this.....Hilmar is still in charge.


Bad news....CCP could be positioning for acquisition.

give Frank a break guys. think of the children.