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Jump Freighter Ganking - CCP what you will do against this???

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Thar Saal
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2013-07-02 10:22:06 UTC
For 3.5 trillion profit reaped from those such as the op, I can see how lucrative it must be for a entire corp to demean itself in such a way. If the defending party wasent so insufferable, then i could partially frown upon acts like that.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#102 - 2013-07-02 10:25:04 UTC
Thar Saal wrote:
partially frown.


Do you smell toast?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Thar Saal
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#103 - 2013-07-02 10:27:43 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Thar Saal wrote:
partially frown.


Do you smell toast?


perhaps some is being made in my manor.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#104 - 2013-07-02 10:29:00 UTC
Thar Saal wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Thar Saal wrote:
partially frown.


Do you smell toast?


perhaps some is being made in my manor.


*hug*


See, I knew you were a good egg Big smile

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#105 - 2013-07-02 10:31:19 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Jesus Christ....how often does this come up? That's twice in one day. I need call MiniLuv and have them fill my swimming pool with some of these tears.


lol, true.

That thread has something almost philosophical.

There's one side that always claims that Jump freightors or cloaky haulers can never be caught (or that dastardly cloaky Tengu and it's interdiction nullifier) and should be removed or nerved so much they could as well be removed and then there's the other side that claims all freighters are to easy to gank and therefore PVP should be removed entirely.

It's hilarious, really. Lol

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#106 - 2013-07-02 10:49:58 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Jesus Christ....how often does this come up? That's twice in one day. I need call MiniLuv and have them fill my swimming pool with some of these tears.


lol, true.

That thread has something almost philosophical.

There's one side that always claims that Jump freightors or cloaky haulers can never be caught (or that dastardly cloaky Tengu and it's interdiction nullifier) and should be removed or nerved so much they could as well be removed and then there's the other side that claims all freighters are to easy to gank and therefore PVP should be removed entirely.

It's hilarious, really. Lol


Well to be fair a blockade runner is damn near impossible to catch in high sec if you do it right.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#107 - 2013-07-02 10:51:59 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Debora Tsung wrote:
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Jesus Christ....how often does this come up? That's twice in one day. I need call MiniLuv and have them fill my swimming pool with some of these tears.


lol, true.

That thread has something almost philosophical.

There's one side that always claims that Jump freightors or cloaky haulers can never be caught (or that dastardly cloaky Tengu and it's interdiction nullifier) and should be removed or nerved so much they could as well be removed and then there's the other side that claims all freighters are to easy to gank and therefore PVP should be removed entirely.

It's hilarious, really. Lol


Well to be fair a blockade runner is damn near impossible to catch in high sec if you do it right.



High sec doesn't matter anyway therefore no problem or issue to solve.

removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#108 - 2013-07-02 11:07:20 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Debora Tsung wrote:
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Jesus Christ....how often does this come up? That's twice in one day. I need call MiniLuv and have them fill my swimming pool with some of these tears.


lol, true.

That thread has something almost philosophical.

There's one side that always claims that Jump freightors or cloaky haulers can never be caught (or that dastardly cloaky Tengu and it's interdiction nullifier) and should be removed or nerved so much they could as well be removed and then there's the other side that claims all freighters are to easy to gank and therefore PVP should be removed entirely.

It's hilarious, really. Lol


Well to be fair a blockade runner is damn near impossible to catch in high sec if you do it right.


Well, in that case it's the "near pimpossible" I'd focus my attention on, because it means they can still becaught. Big smile

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#109 - 2013-07-02 11:08:28 UTC
Eve, a harsh universe of crime and punishment. Says so on the box.


If you are mad, go out and punish them.



Contrary to common nub belief, there is no ponies in space.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#110 - 2013-07-02 11:09:04 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Debora Tsung wrote:
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Jesus Christ....how often does this come up? That's twice in one day. I need call MiniLuv and have them fill my swimming pool with some of these tears.


lol, true.

That thread has something almost philosophical.

There's one side that always claims that Jump freightors or cloaky haulers can never be caught (or that dastardly cloaky Tengu and it's interdiction nullifier) and should be removed or nerved so much they could as well be removed and then there's the other side that claims all freighters are to easy to gank and therefore PVP should be removed entirely.

It's hilarious, really. Lol


Well to be fair a blockade runner is damn near impossible to catch in high sec if you do it right.



High sec doesn't matter anyway therefore no problem or issue to solve.


Oh theres no issue, although I still don't know why CCP made them unscannable. We have plenty of bads who transport billions in untanked iterons.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#111 - 2013-07-02 11:15:13 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

I believe that EvE should be a difficult game. It should take effort to kill a multi-billion isk ship. Being able to kill freighters and other high value targets in high sec in seconds, with a bunch of low skilled alts for giggles devalues EvE. Why put in effort and pay 50 - 500 mill wardecs to hunt targets, or pirate in low or null and hunt targets and in turn be hunted when you can just sit safely and immune in high ganking multi billion isk freighters / jump freighters risk free.


Oh I seeee


It should be easy for one group of players and not another


Got it

Should be easy for no one.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
GetSirrus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#112 - 2013-07-02 11:17:49 UTC
receipe to avoid disaster, needs to be same corp

Condor (race to flavor)
High:
what ever
med:
1mn mwd
web II x 2
cap reg
low:
nanofiber

after gate.
commence align/warp freighter
order frigate to orbit 2.5, target freighter, activate mwd to close the distance to freighter, under 10km, both webs.
freighter insta-warp.
shut the gate, the horse has bolted.

by the time the slow warp freighter reaches the next gate, the companion frigate's 60 second global has expired.

repeat as required.
0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#113 - 2013-07-02 11:22:32 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Eve, a harsh universe of crime and punishment. Says so on the box.


If you are mad, go out and punish them.



Contrary to common nub belief, there is no ponies in space.


Eve was a harsh universe untill the last miner barge HP buff, now it's just a world of war crack clone. The miner buff was an IQ dumb down enougth. Eve would trully die if they buffed freighter HP or made ganking any harder.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#114 - 2013-07-02 11:24:38 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
I believe that EvE should be a difficult game. It should take effort to kill a multi-billion isk ship


That ship is a niche, non combat ship. It cannot defend itself. What you are asking for is immunity from the actions of others because you have chosen to vastly increase risks to yourself through stupidity. That will never, ever happen.

Quote:
Why put in effort and pay 50 - 500 mill wardecs to hunt targets, or pirate in low or null and hunt targets and in turn be hunted when you can just sit safely and immune in high ganking multi billion isk freighters / jump freighters risk free.


So... we should remove the pricetag from wardecs? Pirate

Im making an observation nothing more. Dont fly indy ships.

And no the pricetag for ganking should be increased in terms of risk / cost.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Anna Djan
Banana Corp
#115 - 2013-07-02 11:25:23 UTC
0Lona 0ltor wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Eve, a harsh universe of crime and punishment. Says so on the box.


If you are mad, go out and punish them.



Contrary to common nub belief, there is no ponies in space.


Eve was a harsh universe untill the last miner barge HP buff, now it's just a world of war crack clone. The miner buff was an IQ dumb down enougth. Eve would trully die if they buffed freighter HP or made ganking any harder.


Stop being so dramatic, you attention seeking whore :)
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#116 - 2013-07-02 11:27:56 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Should be easy for no one.


Its much harder to set up a freighter gank than to make a freighter safe and requires at least 17 more people for the gank.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#117 - 2013-07-02 11:29:57 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Oh theres no issue, although I still don't know why CCP made them unscannable. We have plenty of bads who transport billions in untanked iterons.


That really is a wee bit strange, I never understood why they did that.

I could have understood it if they had turned it into some kinde of Scan strength versus Scan shield systems mechanic, but that completely unscannable thingy is just strange...

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#118 - 2013-07-02 11:32:24 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
WoW.


Every. Single. Post.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#119 - 2013-07-02 11:34:52 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
I believe that EvE should be a difficult game. It should take effort to kill a multi-billion isk ship


That ship is a niche, non combat ship. It cannot defend itself. What you are asking for is immunity from the actions of others because you have chosen to vastly increase risks to yourself through stupidity. That will never, ever happen.

Quote:
Why put in effort and pay 50 - 500 mill wardecs to hunt targets, or pirate in low or null and hunt targets and in turn be hunted when you can just sit safely and immune in high ganking multi billion isk freighters / jump freighters risk free.


So... we should remove the pricetag from wardecs? Pirate

Im making an observation nothing more. Dont fly indy ships.

And no the pricetag for ganking should be increased in terms of risk / cost.


Thing is, how do you increase the risk/cost of ganking?

You can't just make catalysts more expensive. They'd just to move to something else. They already removed insurance payouts if you get killed by CONCORD.

They have already been making it harder and more expensive for years. Nerf after nerf.

But apparently it's never enough. It's always one more little bit here, one more little bit there. The kind of people who whine about getting ganked are the people who really do want to have immunity. Those people are wrong, and whether they know it or not, those people are bad for the game.

That is why people jump down their throats on the forums, that is why people laugh at them for their losses. So yeah, to hell with those people.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#120 - 2013-07-02 11:38:11 UTC
Elder TheRock wrote:
NEXT sensless Jumpfreighter was ganked by Goons

Cargovalue: 1.2 bil

CCP you want this kind of "pvp"....if yes, you will lost all old players
which gave your game the chance to grow 10 years ago!


I play now over 8 years Eve....but now its over for me....

and all other players who want to tell me: "why you re so dump and fly in highsec with your Jumpfreighter"

It was not my, it was only a good friend in my corporation....the second one in the last 2 month....

we will quit now....


THANKYOU CCP
Regards
Tom



Well this is incredible because it's only a couple of weeks since I was told that no one loses JFs ever

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016