Warfare & Tactics

Quite sure all faction warfare is heavily saturated with lp whores.

PvP is not good to just 'dabble' in the way you can in PvE. It really takes up an enormous amount of time both in training skills higher (usually max is assumed) than usual for success in PvE.

PvP is not inherently a solo activity. It scales very quickly and benefits players that socialize with other humans. The whole solo obsession is 1% highly skilled players looking for challenge, and 99% newbs that use the excuse of solo combat to hide from ever fleeting up with other players. We call these pilots...easy kills.

It's an MMO. Make friends. That is the single biggest benefit to any would be PvPer- fly with other people. Even if you are all total newbs and laughably bad at this game....it's fun to fly together, and you are immediately much more of a threat than any single newb trying to not have to actually talk to other people (scary).

D-Scan. Master it to survive. No way around it- the D-Scan is central to a life of PvP.

Voice comms. Just get em all downloaded. I have used Teamspeak, Mumble, and Vent playing Eve, so having them all ready to go is a big benefit. Most corps won't accept you without a mic, and it really is required for any real PvP fleet.

That your corps 'vets' said rvb and fw were amateurish and then suggested eve uni says a lot about how little pvp experience they have and nothing about rvb or fw.

I would suggest joining rvb first, then when you feel you have lost your pvp shakes and have a good idea of where you want to take your toon skill wise, jump into fw.

A bit of advice about rvb. It is what you make of it. There are a lot of guys who have joined rvb and not made anything from it at all. Some have joined expecting to be taught pvp and left when it wasn't handed to them. Others are holidaying nullseccers who are just after a bit of pissed up explosions and banter without getting shouted at if they do something stupid by a angry shut-in nullsec fc. Rvb has a broad membership, there are guys who like the big grinder fleets and there are guys who like to roam around in a target rich environment. There are a lot of guys who will be on the same skill level as you. Hook up with those guys, don't be a lemming and then cry about how rvb didn't teach you anything. Really, it's an opportunity to teach yourself.

The hardest thing about starting out in pvp is losing your jitters, risk aversion and not having a focused skillplan. Rvb is v good at sorting that. Pick a ship class, pick a weapon system, skill for it. Find a fit you understand and milk it.


Fw has great opportunities for pvp, with some great corps, but can attract a lot of bullsh1tters too. There are some great noob friendly corps like brave newbies and fweddit. Don't rule out going pirate. Just like fw but with more targets and no station lock outs. You can still use fw plexes to find fights and SHOOT EVERYONE!

Which FW faction does not have a lots of pilots when they hit T3? LP bonus is too lucrative to resist!

Also, it's because gallentes talk too much and do too little.

Just to make it short:

RvB: arranged PVP, which means you have good chances to get a fair fight.
FW: non-consensual PVP of small scale at high frequency with small ships. Usualy n vs. m with n,m element {1...9}
0.0: non-consensual PVP of large scale at low frequency with big ships. Usualy n vs. m with n,m element {30...999}

So if you want cheap, fair fights go to RvB.
If you want cheap but real fights join a noob friendly FW corp like for example T.R.I.A.D.
If you want expensive blob fights then join a 0.0 corp.

I don't think you understand who's farming who.