Jita Park Speakers Corner

If people who have an interest and want it represented, they need to find a candidate who supports their needs.

Much of Null sec got organized and behind this recent CSM panel and we're being represented as such. The previous CSM didn't stand up for us and CCP threw changes into the game that are destroying null sec as we speak. Less people are logging in and many are demotivated to play. This isn't just in null, but across EVE.

This CSM is vocal and raise hell. By how much effort in terms of media coverage, bitching and moaning this CSM (as a whole) has done, they've helped (maybe not completely responsible for) push CCP to focus on EVE the game and not CCP the company trying to make a quick buck.

They are representing our (null) interests because we got organized and put them all into office. They will most likely, as in real life, represent the aspects of the game which influence what they do on a daily basis the most.

If you want someone in office who supports the direction which you feel is important, you need to organize and make it happen. However, with the way empire is, being splintered and disorganized, it's going to be difficult.

Or the low amount of people who actually live in hisec alone.

First and foremost; Great job on bringing more than an ounce of relevance to the CSM. And the quick stir to the politics of EVE.

My Question;

As a professional running a law practice myself and not having the time to really dedicate to EVE. I am now relegated to casual play time in high-sec. Do you feel EVE can remain committed to FiS for even the casual player or do you advocate more to the hard core player base.

Putting yourself in the casual/time limited players shoes, What do you think could be done better to attract and retain this kind of player?

We try to push for fixes that cut across the low/null/high/wspace spectrum to improve the game. We're beginning to see some of the fruits of our labors with the first slate of POS Misery tweaks: fuel bricks, shorter timers, no passwords on bridges. With the exception of the bridge tweak, these improvements help everyone who has to suffer through using a POS. The CSM's championing of Team Gridlock (across multiple CSMs, not just CSM6) has resulted in dramatic reduction in Jita lag as a side effect of trying to fix lag elsewhere.

Come CSM7 I expect to see at least two 'pure Hisec' reps to help champion their issues, and I won't stand in their way. However it's not like I have ~brilliant hisec ideas~ that are just sitting in a pile. I'd defer to the wisdom of someone who deals more with hisec for fixes for that area, assuming they aren't a drooling, spoon-throwing idiot like Ankh was.

Mostly though I'll be pushing for the Dead Horse pos proposal, which again would improve industry and gameplay for everyone who deals with towers.

Well said! Hi-sec should be for people who want to live in hi-sec, not a mandatory requirement for people who's focus would be elsewhere but for the horribly gimped industrial limitations of 0.0

Dear Mr. The Mittani,

I think EVE would be a far more interesting place if null sec alliances actually wanted other entities using their space. This would make it a lot easier for newer corps/alliances as they could live in another alliances space while learning the ropes of 0.0 warfare/politics and building their numbers.

So what keeps this from happening?

There is no incentive for a space holding alliance to allow anyone else in their space. Corp office rental fees, sales tax, etc. are a drop in the bucket compared to income from mining high end moons. On top of that, any guest corp/alliance can just move all their loot to jita with jump freighters so the host alliance wont see much income due to local commerce. As it is, station markets in 0.0 are only used to supply alliance members with ships and ammo to defend the space and/or rat. Rarely is anything of value (gained in the 0.0 space) sold on these markets.

On the flip side, the space holding alliance has little to offer the guest corp/alliance. Short of 24/7 roaming gangs they can't offer any protection. An alliance with lots of high end systems might be able to spare some belt rats but most alliances will need all of their anoms and complexes for their members. 0.0 resources don't scale to the number of players in the space, high sec has agents that give missions. If 1 person wants a mission, there is 1 mission, if 5,000 people want a mission, there are 5,000 missions. In 0.0, a fully upgraded system has at most 5 valuable anomalies whether there is 1 person running them or 5,000.

A lot of people (and I think the CCP devs are included in this) think of 0.0 space as somewhere that big alliances take over and make their home. The truth is, 0.0 space is just where the alliances farm. It's an awesome playground and the big alliances claim it as their own and beat up any other kid that tries to play there. Sure, their members spend 99% of their time in null sec but there is a constant stream of jump freighters moving ships, ammo and mods from jita out to null sec. Every 0.0 alliance does all of their shopping (buying and selling) in Jita. If it wasn't for the JF link to jita, none of the 0.0 alliances would have the minerals or ice products to support themselves.

Jump freighters and high end moons are by far the largest factors in the current state of 0.0. The gap in value between high end and low end moon resources is way too big, it shouldn't be so easy for 0.0 alliances to do all of their shopping in Jita and 0.0 space can't support anywhere near enough pilots for alliances to open their space up.

Am I just crazy, or would eve be far more interesting if null sec was actually a place where people lived, buying, selling, mining and manufacturing things?

Countless small things would need to be adjusted as well. For example, the access rights on mobile labs are currently useless. One outpost per system may not be enough, or outposts will need more research/manufacturing slots. Agents in player owned stations would be nice, better yet, allow sov owners to pay for missions or rat bounties (or add their own isk to rat bounties) in their systems and have the number of missions completed and rats killed give a benefit to the sov holders (tougher sov structures, cheaper maintenance costs, whatever).

Is CCP looking at doing anything like this to shake things up or are they quite happy with the current state of the game and sov warfare?

Mr. Chairman I think many players like myself would like the opportunity to infiltrate Null Sec as saboteurs, agents of chaos, and just plain irritants to the big Alliances that have frozen us out. Would you support a hacking module buff that could be implemented by a cloaked ship that would allow it to use ANY jump bridge?

Some of the imbalance high sec suffers from is that a lot of the gankers get to flee home to “Too Safe Walled Garden Alliances Far Away In Null Space” if we could visit some of that gank PVP in their home systems I think everyone would be happier.

Mr. Chairman will you support some changes to the hacking modules that will allow a cloaked small gang or large fleet to infiltrate Null space jump bridge networks? Maybe we will find some tears other then our own when the shoe is on the other foot.

It could give us the chance to meet ship to ship in your local space at a time of my choosing which would be worth not getting out of your system with ship or pod. Are you up for a little non-consensual PVP on your turf?

Dear King o' Space and CFC Overlord,

I like your ideas on being able to raise an empire without having to take space and support your ideas on destroyable stations. I too have some ideas that I would like to add.

SBUs have a lot of potential to be very annoying for alliances that just dock up and log off when they are invaded. If SBUs could be upgraded (like ihubs) so that they actually prevented Ihub upgrades from taking effect. For instance you could have SBU upgrades that could prevent ratting/mining anomalies from respawning or that prevent JBs, cyno gen and jammers upgrades from working. These SBUs would essentially be "anti-ihubs" in that their own upgrades would counter act all ihub upgrades.

Also, since your sov level is determined by how long you take sov, wouldn't it also make sense that your sov level degrades after your systems are SBU'd for a certain period of time? It's way out of my league to come up with time frames, but let's say a nullsec alliance is being invaded and "docks" up with their systems SBU'd for like a week. Shouldn't their sov level drop some, so that at some point if they didn't undock things like jbs and cyno gens/jammers wouldn't work? i'm surely not advocating that SBUs should be able to remove sov entirely, and that if such a mechanic as described above were in fact enacted, it should bring sov level down to one and no entirely remove sov from a nullsec entity.

The point of SBUs was to cause fights and since sov would be vulnerable, but why not give alliances more invcentives to fight since they would actually lose important things like anoms, jb and cynogen/jammer use and possibly even sov levels. Docking up and hoping ppl get bored should not be a viable game mechanic and needs to be punished somehow and above is my 2 cents on how to do it.

Come on dude, gates are completely different to bridges- even you should know this so you'll have to excuse me if I am unable to grasp the argument you are trying to make here. There's nothing stopping you from ganking nullsec players just as there is nothing stopping me from ganking people in empire. Again what is it about bridges that makes this impossible for you?

King of Space Mittani's stance on the reiteration of nullsec is a far cry from your proposal of further uninformed, knee-jerk nullsec nerfs that you can't even make a solid argument for- which is exactly what rallied this CSM to power in the first place.

Everywhere in EVE is dangerous. You're trying to say that the reward for months of effort and billions of isk expended to claim and hold space should be circumvented by a single ******* module on a single ******* ship just so you can avoid a couple of gate camps? It's ridiculous and flies in the face of the anti-solo gameplay that makes this game.

Hell, why shouldn't the pos you're trying to hack just blow you up the instant you uncloak? This is why it's a dumb idea, sorry it just is.