Market Discussions

So I've been selling some implants and stuff, but I noticed some pretty strange behavior on the market sell orders.
Basically there's a group of 4 different orders that updates occasionally, but when they do, they all do it at once with only a few seconds between them. They're all set to the same price as well. It seems very consistent.

http://i.imgur.com/qkBKZaH.jpg

As you can see I have made a circle around the orders in question.

I wonder if it's some kind of strange bot, never really seen that behavior before :o

Could be, but could also be a load of users using Mentat or Elinor, which give you a copy paste value for updating, and if they havent hit refresh, then you get a few orders at the same price

i thought that too at first, multiple stacks etc.
But at tops it takes him 4 sec to update each stack..a bit thick line here...

Its multiple stack by definition.
now if they belong to the same player, only way to check is buying it...
i highly doubt that someone can update an order in 2 seconds.
keep investigating :)

You can only check who has 1 of the stacks.

Considering the update price is what, .5 isk in front of the older order a simple scroll wheel update on his 4 orders wouldnt take more than a few seconds. Update your price by something that takes more than a simple flick and see how fast he updates.

Confirming I have frequently placed multiple stacks of one item, for quite a variety of reasons. Most often, it's a rapid selling item that's well above usual price (e.g. 1600mm tech 2 plates 7 days ago) that there's a 0.01 ISK war going on on. Rather than post one stack of 350 of them, I'll post 5 stacks of 70, and if I'm 0.01 ISKed within 5 minutes, I 10.01 ISK the person back with one of the other stacks.

It still takes me 5-6 seconds to change each one, even with copy-paste, however.

I don't imagine it would be hard to do when your muscle memory is used to it.

--it's only ~20 pixels to the right and ~50 down to move your mouse cursor to click 'Modify',
--the 'Modify' click can be done with the same right click as you just used
--ergo, the above two are just a double tap of the right mouse button, moving your mouse cursor a bit right and down in between
--left pinky and forefinger pre-positioned on CTRL+V
--don't even need to take your hand off the mouse at all, just tap 'Enter' on the number pad with your right thumb without taking your hand off the mouse
--only ~50 pixels down to the next order to update

The method I described isn't "assumptions", it is one of my methods.

I can modify multiple stacks I'm updating with a ~3-4 secs spread, but I do 1-3 clicks down on the scroll wheel on occasions when I update like that, making each subsequent modification 0.01 ISK lower than the last.

On occasions I mass update multiple stacks, I could easily do them with two second spreads if I didn't adjust each subsequent order modification slightly with my scroll wheel. A two second spread on market order updates when somebody is just CTRL+Ving in the same price over and over again, strikes me as perfectly within anyone's ability.

I don't see any evidence to suggest a botter.

The amount of questions regarding what the bots can and can't do is high, maybe CCP will let us test them on SISI :)))