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Largest sov holding alliance - lost all sov
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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#121 - 2013-07-02 06:39:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Grimpak
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Grimpak wrote:

well you know how complains are. they are sooo much easier to make than actually do something, because you need to, you know, work for it.

Confirming that effort is easily the scariest word in Eve.

OHGODS EFFORT!Shocked


Merovee wrote:
WOW! That was easy, even twice. gf

HEY! CCP how about make it a little harder to hack and disband an alliance. Goons have done it twice, so why don't you make a littler harder to do next time, like take it to the next level. Blink

complaining about alliances taken down by deceit and betrayal shocker.

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Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#122 - 2013-07-02 06:46:42 UTC
I have a nerd boner right now.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Iudicium Vastus
Doomheim
#123 - 2013-07-02 06:50:25 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Grimpak wrote:

well you know how complains are. they are sooo much easier to make than actually do something, because you need to, you know, work for it.

Confirming that effort is easily the scariest word in Eve.

OHGODS EFFORT!Shocked


Merovee wrote:
WOW! That was easy, even twice. gf

HEY! CCP how about make it a little harder to hack and disband an alliance. Goons have done it twice, so why don't you make a littler harder to do next time, like take it to the next level. Blink

complaining about alliances taken down by deceit and betrayal shocker.


Still, it's the start of qualifying as just a one trick pony. Might've been impressive the first time. But now....

yawwn

[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)
Mark Androcius
#124 - 2013-07-02 06:56:24 UTC
I don't think The Mittani has anything to do with this, to be honest.
I mean if he was, MAN did he ever forget to prepare for a lot of things, like dropping tcu's there directly after the fact for example.

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#125 - 2013-07-02 06:57:32 UTC
Iudicium Vastus wrote:
Still, it's the start of qualifying as just a one trick pony. Might've been impressive the first time. But now....

yawwn


Those who refuse to learn by history, are doomed to repeat it.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#126 - 2013-07-02 06:58:57 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
if i were n3 i would tell dinner to take the space while they are busy killing goons. goons getting neutered is more important atm then anything else.

If I were Dinner, I'd leave Catch and go to Fountain to fight TEST with CFC. Then I'd employ CFC aid to take Querious from NC.

Employ the CFC? Surely you mean PL.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#127 - 2013-07-02 06:59:57 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
I don't think The Mittani has anything to do with this, to be honest.
I mean if he was, MAN did he ever forget to prepare for a lot of things, like dropping tcu's there directly after the fact for example.

I would be surprised if he didn't know, but but seems someone else (maybe more than one person) was involved in helping that guy get to, and push, the button.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#128 - 2013-07-02 07:02:18 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Employ the CFC? Surely you mean PL.

That's not really what I meant.

Oh god.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#129 - 2013-07-02 07:12:46 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Mark Androcius wrote:
I don't think The Mittani has anything to do with this, to be honest.
I mean if he was, MAN did he ever forget to prepare for a lot of things, like dropping tcu's there directly after the fact for example.

I would be surprised if he didn't know, but but seems someone else (maybe more than one person) was involved in helping that guy get to, and push, the button.


That he was allowed to push the button in the first place was the problem.

It's a lesson (in all games really) that officers are to be trusted only so far, due to this potential. In WoW it's not deleting the guild bank and taking the gold (that all can be replaced), it's splintering the guild and taking your best players away. Which is why officers are best to be RL friends and/or family, as you have to meet that guy/gal in RL...and no game is worth destroying both being friends and having a family.

Like BoB, Solar trusted random strangers on the internet. That's like giving someone your pin number to a total stranger. If you can't recruit offline with friends or family to protect assets, you really shouldn't have an alliance. As you will get hit like this, especially in a game where crime is allowed.

Street smarts is needed, and geeks better get with the program. There's no cops here, and fun and games can end pretty badly.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#130 - 2013-07-02 07:20:33 UTC
*yawn* null sec neck beard space.

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#131 - 2013-07-02 07:39:40 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Grimpak wrote:

well you know how complains are. they are sooo much easier to make than actually do something, because you need to, you know, work for it.

Confirming that effort is easily the scariest word in Eve.

OHGODS EFFORT!Shocked


Merovee wrote:
WOW! That was easy, even twice. gf

HEY! CCP how about make it a little harder to hack and disband an alliance. Goons have done it twice, so why don't you make a littler harder to do next time, like take it to the next level. Blink

complaining about alliances taken down by deceit and betrayal shocker.

Little too easy when one player can destroy the work of thousands with very little effort. These things would make more sense if they were done by a core group of officers. One player, no sense at all. Alliances suck so all in all a good thing.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#132 - 2013-07-02 07:44:02 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Little too easy when one player can destroy the work of thousands

They destroyed their own work.

Oh god.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#133 - 2013-07-02 07:54:31 UTC
Quote:

Little too easy when one player can destroy the work of thousands with very little effort. These things would make more sense if they were done by a core group of officers. One player, no sense at all. Alliances suck so all in all a good thing.


The only work those thousands ever did was slave away in the isk mines of their masters.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#134 - 2013-07-02 08:00:32 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Employ the CFC? Surely you mean PL.

That's not really what I meant.



Were you searching for the word "use" ?

Ask me next time you don't know.

Lol

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#135 - 2013-07-02 09:59:59 UTC
More of a mutual agreement.

Oh god.
Ramael Hashur
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#136 - 2013-07-02 10:06:40 UTC
I find it funny that people who are affected negatively by this complain about unfair game mechanics and that it's not fair. And then the same people say that ganking and bumping and gate camps are completely fine and 100% okay and allowed.

Make up your ruttin' minds.

I for one, think that all is fair in love and war. What the Goons managed to pull off with this is awesome, it's a feat worth recognizing.
Sugar Von MurdererTits
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#137 - 2013-07-02 10:50:46 UTC
From what I understand, Goons had nothing to do with it except maybe giving some disgruntled, barely active Nulli CEO a bit of advice. It obviously wasn't planned or the mop up operation wouldn't be going so damn fast.

I could be wrong though. Ugh
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#138 - 2013-07-02 12:11:39 UTC
Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:
From what I understand, Goons had nothing to do with it except maybe giving some disgruntled, barely active Nulli CEO a bit of advice. It obviously wasn't planned or the mop up operation wouldn't be going so damn fast.

I could be wrong though. Ugh


It's pretty well planned when it goes very smoothly.

It's just history repeating itself.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#139 - 2013-07-02 12:16:06 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Quote:

Little too easy when one player can destroy the work of thousands with very little effort. These things would make more sense if they were done by a core group of officers. One player, no sense at all. Alliances suck so all in all a good thing.


The only work those thousands ever did was slave away in the isk mines of their masters.


Blue doughnut became the prey.

Like with James and crew selling "miner protection".

Why to play with RL friends and family, because of what "pubbies" like to do.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Tyrendian Biohazard
The Bastards
Sedition.
#140 - 2013-07-02 12:41:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyrendian Biohazard
Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote:
From what I understand, Goons had nothing to do with it except maybe giving some disgruntled, barely active Nulli CEO a bit of advice. It obviously wasn't planned or the mop up operation wouldn't be going so damn fast.

I could be wrong though. Ugh


I don' t know about that. There are insinuations that it was planned, albeit short notice. We'll never really know for sure unless someone speaks up.

That being said, I'm surprised (or maybe I've missed it) that nobody has argued the fact that the account seemed to be shared among several people. Having an account hacked and things (isk, sov) restored is one thing, willingly sharing your information with others is a completely different scenario. As with the theme of Eve: you risked it, you lost it. Tough shite.

EDIT: I can haz typing skills, derp

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