EVE General Discussion

/puts helmet on, cause this is gonna get rough.

I would really like to see external killboards (aka "PVP Surveillance") be brought down - eve-kill, battleclinic, etc. (nothing against their owners or developers at ALL).

Why?

It would remove the ego. People would be far less likely to commit acts that diminish interesting gameplay and PVP combat. Less likely (more specifically "less incentivized") to do things which artificially pad and inflate numbers to make their internet penis appear bigger.

Additional points:

• Intel : This would force players to perform more in-game actual reconnaissance instead of KB lurking.

• Information : This would increase the value of information sharing among strangers, allies, and enemies alike - being that easy acquisition of an enemy's doctrines, location of operations, and other information available on KBs would be eliminated.

• Interest : A combination of the above two points - if this additional "tool" were abolished, smart FCs, CEOs, etc. would take full advantage of the blackout on PVP surveillance...

• Purity - I predict a slight to moderate change in philosophy and attitude toward PVP combat - specifically 0.0. To many, killboard numbers mean everything - and players, corps, and alliances obsess pedantically over meaningless statistics. This proposed change would eliminate that stress and shift focus to what really matters in EVE like NO other game - reputation, dominance, control, and power. With no arbitrary, unreliable list of statistics, what is there to display? KB numbers are one thing - sovereignty, dominance, and control are actions over words and speak loudly.

Overall I believe this would be a beneficial attitude adjustment. Keep the in-game killmail system for personal reflection or boasting, but killboards need to go, IMO.

*Pelvic thrust*

There is no way you can bring them down though, so there really isn't any point to this.

Does everybody get a trophy too?

please elaborate on what you perceive to be the problem

Actually EvE needs is something like Armory or the BF series statistics.

Been addicted to stats since I played BF2142, and prefer them (my bias).

Compromise can be they are private (or can be made private, like EQII allows).

The reason they exist is for players to review how they perform among peers. IF they were private stats, the epeening that happens with Armory and the BF stats would be eliminated, yet still preserve their function.

I like to know if my RoF and all reaction times is on par with others. To measure areas that need either more skills and/or training. In games like WoW (or even EQII) there's addons that help with that, so you can always improve and see what to improve. Gaming is always about testing yourself and proving yourself, and we need more of those tools in EvE -- THE spreadsheet game.

Oh, CCP can.

It's called breaking the API that feeds the info.

Don't want that info out, adjust the API and any API function depended on it dries up instantly.

That's how Blizzard kills addons and offsite reporting.

i...would actually not be opposed to this

but that would involve removing killmails from the game, would make the meta a lot more interesting. but at what cost?


comedy killmails.....thats a major entertainment source man

This is true.

CCP do not control external KBs.

Except not everyone plays the sov game.
Besides, as with muscled t-shirts, it's pretty easy to tell when someone has artificially bloated their kill stats.

Couldn't do that in WoW, that game is too big and democratic for a GM to tilt the favor to any guild or group. Blizzard could be in bed with Dream Paragon, even buff them, the fallout of that favoritism would screech the game to a halt...with the largest protests in gaming with all the media attention a #1 game can produce.

If a game is rigged, and players see the carrot is inaccessible to them they quit. Those who continue drop millions of dollars worth of development like a hot potato. The Art department gets ***** slapped hard in the process (and you don't want to lose them to competitors).

If devs tell their players to "l2p" millions leave the game. As players revolt against devs that are that arrogant. Ask John Romero how to sink a franchise overnight. Or Ghostcrawler, who sat in his Ivory Tower for half of Cata after all those death threats...if he even stepped on the forums he knew he'd be burned alive.

If you don't learn from history, you're doomed to repeat it.

Don't repeat it!