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Eve Devs being moved to try and rescue Dust.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#21 - 2013-07-01 23:44:53 UTC
Kewso wrote:
I wish we had a real walking in stations....

All the stuff discussed at fanfests, the in station stores, bars, in station mini games to bet on, social promenade, etc...
that's what should have been done instead of dust.


Wow! No one has ever suggested that before who has also never bothered to log into the game to create an avatar.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-07-01 23:51:47 UTC
Kewso wrote:
I wish we had a real walking in stations....

All the stuff discussed at fanfests, the in station stores, bars, in station mini games to bet on, social promenade, etc...


that's what should have been done instead of dust.




Many people agree with you. Also, many people disagree with you.

Just saying...

Watch this space.  New exciting signature in development.

Sour Jelly
#23 - 2013-07-01 23:56:56 UTC
I think CCP should start making basketball shoes after DUST starts breaking records, along with clothing and accessories for urban youths. They can pick up where Tommy Hilfiger left off.

But NO WiS! That's crazy, remember the statue?
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#24 - 2013-07-02 00:01:01 UTC
"one does not simply rescue dust"

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#25 - 2013-07-02 00:01:27 UTC
I don't have the playstation 2 platform but "convergence" is coming.

I hope a viable linux box with a non proprietary operating system jumps in . I bought my first Tivo in 2000, the year that it came out. Tivo operates on a linux computer basically but they've made almost no progress with their UI

In 2000 the Tivo UI was slick and quicker than hell (felt like that to me) ... I still vastly prefer its simlicity. I never need to know what channel a show comes on or the time.. I rarely have for 13 years.

Tivo is propietary though.

I'm sure there are boxes out there .. like infinity TV (anyone try it? ) but i'm a not tech person and I've got mental procrastination barriers to jumping in on it.

Could DUST be put on a linux alternative that fit a game processor car separate from the main video card ? A box that functioned as a cable card tuner and a straight out computer monitor and DVR ?

Anyway think I'll be able to play dust soon(2 years is soon in my 48 year old book) on my TV with neither a playstation or and xbox?



* Microsoft seems to be abandoning the concept of the PC rather than enabling the PC as an open operating system that works easily as a dvr (their windows media player was certainly on that order but without an approved cable card box built in.

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Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-07-02 00:03:17 UTC
As long as EvE doesn't suffer from any of this - don't really care.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-07-02 00:17:58 UTC
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Selling Tinfoil hats !!!

1plex per hat



Can I haz?

removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne

Sassums
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#28 - 2013-07-02 00:37:54 UTC
I think it was a terrible business decision to launch a brand new game on a platform the year a new system is coming out. Why invest in an already extremely dated system.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#29 - 2013-07-02 00:43:12 UTC
Sebastien Starstrider wrote:
uh... from the quotes you had, it doesn't sound like the 'pet project' is in trouble. it sounds like it's doing great and they want to capitalize on that success?


i can tell you play dust.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Arec Bardwin
#30 - 2013-07-02 01:13:03 UTC
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Selling Tinfoil hats !!!

1plex per hat
So it is confirmed, we are getting hats!!! FINALLY!!!
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#31 - 2013-07-02 01:48:45 UTC
Chamile Eonic wrote:
Sebastien Starstrider wrote:
uh... from the quotes you had, it doesn't sound like the 'pet project' is in trouble. it sounds like it's doing great and they want to capitalize on that success?


I have no idea how much money CCP are making from the game, but its easy enough to see how many people are playing

http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust

It peaked out at about 8000 concurrent players and dropped as low as 4000 with a small increase recently. these are small numbers for a free to play game.

Reviews have been pretty terrible so far. Most of the positive ones talk more about potential than what the game is today. Its possible the game could be OK one day, it just sucks seeing Eve funds sucked out even more to prop Dust up until/if it becomes profitable.

Those aren't EVE funds, those are CCP funds... to do with as they please.

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Ckra Trald
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-07-02 02:20:25 UTC
ccp should have waited until ps4 came out and developed for ps4 instead of a dying console gen

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Lipbite
Express Hauler
#33 - 2013-07-02 02:32:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Selling Tinfoil hats !!!

1plex per hat


I thought company's policy changed and 100-300AUR price would be more suitable for present incarnation of NeX shop :p

P.S. I wouldn't mind to buy (almost) any hat for the toon.

P.P.S. "Funny" part is (mediocre) multiplayer shooters have more players on consoles than on PCs. For example Defiance sold almost 3x times more on consoles. Dust port to PC has slim chances to compete against CoD, PS2, MW series, upcoming Destiny. And as EVE player I have ~0 interest in shooter limited to arenas - maybe only to compensate lack of WiS mechanics in EVE.
Ken 1138
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-07-02 03:02:38 UTC
I Love Boobies wrote:
If you look at the past month server population on DUST, you can notice the gradual decline. Which is predictable, people trying it out after it was released, not finding it to their liking, and not playing any longer. What you will eventually have left are the people who actually like DUST.


I have an account just for the time when interaction becomes deeper and better. Other than that, i don't even play it.
Solhild
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-07-02 04:44:52 UTC
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Dear CCP,

You can't polish a turd.


Roll it in glitter!
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#36 - 2013-07-02 05:05:04 UTC
I have lost more drop ships to the "control" system than enemy fire. Even real helicopters are not that hard to fly!

When I can reliably queue up for combat missions where my militia-geared squad is not going to be facing off against proto-geared squads, I will resume my DUST514 adventures.

In the meantime, while people can simply bankroll their way to proto gear I class DUST514 as Pay To Win. Once the equipment for Dust Bunnies is manufactured and delivered by capsuleers, and players can't simply have infinite supplies of immediately accessible proto gear by buying Aurum, I will regain some interest. I am continuing to play a few games a week but my interest really in waning.
Ryuu Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-07-02 05:07:11 UTC
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Dear CCP,

You can't polish a turd.



The hell's an Ark then?

_**Noob **_isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.

  • Sun Tzu
Joan Greywind
The Lazy Crabs
#38 - 2013-07-02 05:10:59 UTC
Yea a gaming company switching developers or designers between its games (that have a lot of similarities) is totally unheard of in the gaming industry and that means that CCP is going down.

I agree that dust till now is at best a sub par game, and it has a lot of problems, but the potential is really high. And the possibility to expand EVE with a game like DUST is definitely worth the time and resources put into it. When EVE launched it was a ****** unbalance game about spaceships, now it is less ****** and unbalanced, but is the best game out there not because of it has the best gameplay or graphics, but because it has the best premise and gameplay (not actually flying the ship but way the sandbox operates). Dust will only add to that, and add more to the experience. Granted it doesn't look rosy, but hope is still there.

Man I am being such a CCP pet these days, it is becoming nauseating.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2013-07-02 05:25:04 UTC
Gogela wrote:
We've had pretty thin releases since Incarna, and DUST (which I play fairly frequently b/c EvE) is suffering from a number of serious and systemic problems (not the least of which is the lack of a "fun" factor), so this wouldn't surprise me.

Straight


Considering that actual fun isn't even the design of EvE, I'm not surprised that DUST isn't either.

CCP is used to making EvE and been doing it so long, there's a culture in their HQ that will follow any other game they make. FPS games are designed for careless fun all the way back to the Quake days, not turning it from the original Star Trek to what Star Trek became today (a clinically sterile geek fest that lost the space cowboy feel of the original series). Add this is the company that allows crime as a mechanic in an industry about socialization -- not antisocial behaviors -- DUST won't sell well even on a PC platform.

I played a MUD with the same outlook that attracted those who preferred playing the toughest and roughest, and the community was the worst I had ever seen in any game. When I went back to check it out, it's but existing on fumes today. Picking wings off of flies isn't what "normal" players consider fun or even a mentally healthy interest to hang around. What's left is the worst seen in RL in an online game.

MMOs are about people getting together in an environment that's conductive to grouping together, with some assurance their time and money isn't wasted on the worst elements in RL...as a game design.

It's not the skill time that hurts EvE (and by extension DUST) it's it environment. It's not fun to "normal" people. Dweebs and who you see in prison videos though think it's literally out of this world. Ugh

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#40 - 2013-07-02 05:53:55 UTC
Kewso wrote:
I wish we had a real walking in stations....

All the stuff discussed at fanfests, the in station stores, bars, in station mini games to bet on, social promenade, etc...


that's what should have been done instead of dust.




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