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Eve Devs being moved to try and rescue Dust.

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Chamile Eonic
The Church of MDAMC
#1 - 2013-07-01 21:23:20 UTC
I don't remember seeing this on the forums yet.

Hans Jagerblitzen (former CSM guy and current CPM (Dusts version of CSM)) Has an update on what they have been up to

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its readily apparent now to the CPM that CCP is doubling down on Dust 514's success, investing more resources into bringing staff on board, focusing their direction, and iterating on the processes that have brought the game this far.


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The growth taking place doesn't just extend to the many job postings that are up as part of push to grow the studio – there are personnel coming over from Reykjavik as well. Most notable of these staff moves is the the man that will now be overseeing Dust 514's game design – Craig Scott, also known as CCP Flying Scotsman.


So it looks like Eve is slipping down the pecking order again. When Hillmars pet project is in trouble the solution is to pull Devs off Eve and hand them over.

http://hansshotfirst.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/cpm-activity-report-3-june-29-2013.html



The faster Dust dies the better. Just imagine what Eve would be like today if all those millions of pounds and Dev hours had been invested into Eve
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2013-07-01 21:26:04 UTC
inb4 lock

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Chamile Eonic
The Church of MDAMC
#3 - 2013-07-01 21:28:17 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
inb4 lock


Why? Isn't Eve devs being taken off of Eve to work on a different game General Discussion material?
Sebastien Starstrider
Everything You Know and Love is Forfeit
#4 - 2013-07-01 21:28:43 UTC
uh... from the quotes you had, it doesn't sound like the 'pet project' is in trouble. it sounds like it's doing great and they want to capitalize on that success?
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-07-01 21:30:16 UTC
Wasn't CCP Flying Scotsman the infamous employee that stated during one of the Alliance Tournaments that "buying" a special Scorpion ship without trading in a regular version acceptable until CCP figures out the exchange, even if it messed up the mineral market...?
Chamile Eonic
The Church of MDAMC
#6 - 2013-07-01 21:33:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Chamile Eonic
Sebastien Starstrider wrote:
uh... from the quotes you had, it doesn't sound like the 'pet project' is in trouble. it sounds like it's doing great and they want to capitalize on that success?


I have no idea how much money CCP are making from the game, but its easy enough to see how many people are playing

http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust

It peaked out at about 8000 concurrent players and dropped as low as 4000 with a small increase recently. these are small numbers for a free to play game.

Reviews have been pretty terrible so far. Most of the positive ones talk more about potential than what the game is today. Its possible the game could be OK one day, it just sucks seeing Eve funds sucked out even more to prop Dust up until/if it becomes profitable.
Turelus
Utassi Security
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#7 - 2013-07-01 21:33:36 UTC
Chamile Eonic wrote:

The faster Dust dies the better. Just imagine what Eve would be like today if all those millions of pounds and Dev hours had been invested into Eve

A real version of Incarna? (I want one...)

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-07-01 21:36:47 UTC
Chamile Eonic wrote:
Sebastien Starstrider wrote:
uh... from the quotes you had, it doesn't sound like the 'pet project' is in trouble. it sounds like it's doing great and they want to capitalize on that success?


I have no idea how much money CCP are making from the game, but its easy enough to see how many people are playing

http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust

It peaked out at about 8000 concurrent players and dropped as low as 4000 with a small increase recently. these are small numbers for a free to play game.

Reviews have been pretty terrible so far. Most of the positive ones talk more about potential than what the game is today. Its possible the game could be OK one day, it just sucks seeing Eve funds sucked out even more to prop Dust up until/if it becomes profitable.


I've been pretty bearish on Dust since its release and I see no reason to change that opinion. I understand that CCP will give it some time, but I doubt they'll ever recover the money they spent on it.

I hope they haven't sunk so much money into it that they'll have trouble re: Eve's development.
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#9 - 2013-07-01 21:37:29 UTC
Chamile Eonic wrote:
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The growth taking place doesn't just extend to the many job postings that are up as part of push to grow the studio – there are personnel coming over from Reykjavik as well. Most notable of these staff moves is the the man that will now be overseeing Dust 514's game design – Craig Scott, also known as CCP Flying Scotsman.


So it looks like Eve is slipping down the pecking order again. When Hillmars pet project is in trouble the solution is to pull Devs off Eve and hand them over.


A CCP dev that's already working on DUST is moving from Reykjavik to Shanghai, the location where CCP's DUST dev staff is...DUST is obviously dying!

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#10 - 2013-07-01 21:38:19 UTC
If you look at the past month server population on DUST, you can notice the gradual decline. Which is predictable, people trying it out after it was released, not finding it to their liking, and not playing any longer. What you will eventually have left are the people who actually like DUST.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#11 - 2013-07-01 21:39:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Depends on how many devs are being moved over I suppose. One dev really isn't the end of the world, but if they moving any significant number of them over, I personally wouldn't be very pleased.

As for the state of Dust... it has seen some pretty damning reviews, mostly because of general FPS stuff like aiming and movement sensitivity, and vehicle physics. I hope it succeeds, I really do. But I am not particularly optimistic.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Chamile Eonic
The Church of MDAMC
#12 - 2013-07-01 21:42:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Chamile Eonic
Karsa Egivand wrote:
I hope they haven't sunk so much money into it that they'll have trouble re: Eve's development.


My guess would be that we see WoD killed off before we see too much of a hit on Eve development. If the company is in a lot of trouble you tend to double down on your profit making areas.

Dust was born out of the arrogant years pre Summer of Rage. I understand why CCP would try to get a little momentum behind Dust but lets hope they don't throw away too much money.

With the PS4, New Battlefield and Planetside coming this year Dusts window of opportunity is limited. I'm not hearing many people a PS3 version of Dust stands much of a chance against The big guns on their way.

Some people say that Eve started slow and built. Eve was in a market with no competition. Dust is going against the biggest slickest companies in the market.
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#13 - 2013-07-01 22:27:42 UTC
Dear CCP,

You can't polish a turd.
Sour Jelly
#14 - 2013-07-01 22:35:01 UTC
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CCP is doubling down on Dust 514's success


This won't end well.
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2013-07-01 23:05:42 UTC
Double down or nothing eh? Planet Side 2 is incoming real soon Shocked
CCP BunnyVirus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#16 - 2013-07-01 23:20:24 UTC
Selling Tinfoil hats !!!

1plex per hat

3D Artist
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#17 - 2013-07-01 23:25:32 UTC
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Selling Tinfoil hats !!!

1plex per hat


Damn, must be some quality pants hats.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-07-01 23:33:30 UTC
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Selling Tinfoil hats !!!

1plex per hat


Would you have a few devs sign it?

If so, sign me up.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#19 - 2013-07-01 23:34:08 UTC
We've had pretty thin releases since Incarna, and DUST (which I play fairly frequently b/c EvE) is suffering from a number of serious and systemic problems (not the least of which is the lack of a "fun" factor), so this wouldn't surprise me.

Straight

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Kewso
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-07-01 23:39:50 UTC
I wish we had a real walking in stations....

All the stuff discussed at fanfests, the in station stores, bars, in station mini games to bet on, social promenade, etc...


that's what should have been done instead of dust.
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