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Question regarding rorquals

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huang lee
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2013-06-30 01:43:02 UTC
Hi there everyone,

I am a bit of a noob when it comes to capital ships so I am hoping someone here can answer me a few questions relating to the rorqual, I am thinking about getting one in the future but only if it will work in the way I am hoping it will.

Question 1: Can I deploy the rorqual while cloaked?

Question 2: If I can deploy the rorqual while cloaked can I still provide bonuses and/or compress ore while maintaining the cloak?


I was thinking ( and please correct me if I am wrong) about having a rorqual and 4 or 5 hulks out in null sec, deep in someones back yard where no one goes to rat, and just sit there mining all the nice rare ores and when someone came in simply cloak up all the ships so they could not be found. Or alternatively keep the rorqual permanently cloaked and dock up the hulks into the rorqual when someone came into the system . and just scatter the pods to various safe locations. Compress all the ore mined and every once and awhile bring in a jump freighter to take it out. or jump the rorqual back and put it in a safe station to be used later. I just want to make sure all the assets stay safe if something like this does happen.

anyway thank you for listening to my thoughts and I hope someone can help.

Illest Insurrectionist
C5 Flight
Brave Collective
#2 - 2013-06-30 02:17:02 UTC
I look forward to the responses on this as well.

I do have to ask though, if you are looking to mine ore perhaps you could find/join a group out there that would value your services?
Rogue Vol
Vol Tech
#3 - 2013-06-30 02:43:09 UTC
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2013-06-30 04:58:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
huang lee wrote:
Question 1: Can I deploy the rorqual while cloaked?

Question 2: If I can deploy the rorqual while cloaked can I still provide bonuses and/or compress ore while maintaining the cloak?

No. Also you can't use gang links when cloaked.

The Operation of a Rorquals' Industrial Core
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2013-06-30 05:57:32 UTC
No. The cloak disables everything until it is deactivated (not sure about industrial mode, but it it's anything like triage mode on a carrier then the cloak simply won't activate).
Dheeradj Nurgle
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-30 16:37:35 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
No. The cloak disables everything until it is deactivated (not sure about industrial mode, but it it's anything like triage mode on a carrier then the cloak simply won't activate).



If you Cloak you can't use the Industrial Core/Triage/Siege Modules.

If you use the Industrial Core/Triage/Siege Modules, you can't Cloak.
Ave Kathrina
My Ass Is On Fire
#7 - 2013-07-01 03:42:14 UTC
I'm looking forward to your future whinge-post about afk cloakers camping the backwater system you claim for you cloaking miner fleet.
I've done some really stupid shit in this game.
Maika Mabata
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-07-01 06:36:29 UTC
Your question...I don't think you are ready for the Rorqual.

Common sense would have given you the answer that it is NO to both questions.
Lilliana Stelles
#9 - 2013-07-01 13:49:18 UTC
The common solution to this problem is to deploy a small POS with a tiny bit of fuel (just enough for your OP, to save cargo space) and max strontium. Just stick the rorqual behind the POS shield where it will be invincible.

Not a forum alt. 

Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#10 - 2013-07-01 14:19:33 UTC
Sometimes the best way to learn eve is to get the cold shower.
While dreaming is nice it is safe to say that you way near the next future will be able to get either a rorqual (both isk and skill) or nerves to live in null when all you want to do is cloaking.

Please prove me wrong.

Wormholes have the best accoustics. It's known. - Sing it for me -

Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#11 - 2013-07-01 17:03:48 UTC
huang lee wrote:
Hi there everyone,

I am a bit of a noob when it comes to capital ships so I am hoping someone here can answer me a few questions relating to the rorqual, I am thinking about getting one in the future but only if it will work in the way I am hoping it will.

Question 1: Can I deploy the rorqual while cloaked?

Question 2: If I can deploy the rorqual while cloaked can I still provide bonuses and/or compress ore while maintaining the cloak?


I was thinking ( and please correct me if I am wrong) about having a rorqual and 4 or 5 hulks out in null sec, deep in someones back yard where no one goes to rat, and just sit there mining all the nice rare ores and when someone came in simply cloak up all the ships so they could not be found. Or alternatively keep the rorqual permanently cloaked and dock up the hulks into the rorqual when someone came into the system . and just scatter the pods to various safe locations. Compress all the ore mined and every once and awhile bring in a jump freighter to take it out. or jump the rorqual back and put it in a safe station to be used later. I just want to make sure all the assets stay safe if something like this does happen.

anyway thank you for listening to my thoughts and I hope someone can help.



1.) You cannot deploy the Rorqual while cloaked!!!
-- Something I personally lobby for in the F&I section, is giving Rorquals the ability to cloak while deployed (assuming they nerf mining boosts when they nerf Off grid boosting). But this is probably never going to happen.

2.) When cloaked, you cannot activate any modules. Gang boosters, even your siege unit, need to be activated, so you definitely can't "turn them on" while cloaked. Something to note, your modules don't instantly shut off when you cloak, and you have a small time delay (1-3 seconds) between when you hit cloak, and when the game tells you you cannot activate any modules because you are cloaked. The most common use of this, for a covops cloaky ship to align, hit cloak, and then hit an MWD to power out of a bubble in nullsec.

3.) Since Rorquals are complete sitting ducks when they deploy, they are deployed at a POS 99% of the time. You can actually carry a small or medium tower, and the fuel to run it / stront it for any "mining op". It takes 7.5 / 15 minutes to anchor, and 7.5 / 15 minutes to online a small / medium control tower. Once inside the tower Force field (you have to set a password on it before the force field shows up), nothing can attack you, and must shoot down the POS first. This gives you the ability to cyno out, or log off safely long before hostiles can get to you.