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Teenage gamer may go to prison for 8 years.

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Mascha Tzash
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#181 - 2013-07-01 14:47:34 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:


...(researchers there are jailed if they don't follow the political line about WWII)...



Pretty sure you have some sort of likable evidence or reference. I would like to see it. Smile

OT:
8 years would be a bit harsh. On the other hand: Acting and not knowing should never protect you from punishment. ("I din't know that beating others was not allowed.")
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#182 - 2013-07-01 14:49:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
If you believe a mother in Canada "found" where this guy lived from a forum post, you're part of the vast majority that, I'm sure, believes encumbering yourselves with laws that make illegal what you might do to protect yourself from yourself is a good idea.

The reality of this case is that it's easier for government to prosecute a boy for what he might do than enforcing laws against the real criminals of this world. And the sheople cheer government on to do it too.

Don't ban me, bro!
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#183 - 2013-07-01 14:49:28 UTC
Cam Mikaels wrote:
The kid was stupid. That's just not something you say in public, sarcasm or no. While I agree jail-time might be a bit much, he definitely should receive some kind of punishment.


Read the article.
He has been in jail since April, because the prosecutor has set such a high bail.

Kind of think that is just a tad more punishment that some comment in a video game deserves.
Oh, and he did not say it in public. He said it in a PM channel.

Or do you feel that anything you say via the internet is in the public forum?
Like your private email? Or a text message to a friend?

Don't worry if you do, because all the major powers in the world believe that.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#184 - 2013-07-01 14:49:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
As Sean Connery said in "The Rock";



"Your FAWKIN INSHAAANE General Shir"


oh wait that wasn't the quote I meant



""Patriotishim ish the virtue of the vishush." Oshcar Wilde shaid that....owwwww! Thank you for making my point."

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#185 - 2013-07-01 14:51:16 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Simetraz wrote:

That is right you don't know who is listening so you watch what you say.
Just like you do at work or in front of a cop or sometimes in public.
I may be sitting at home right now in private, but this discussion is VERY public.


You are correct, and that is both a blessing and a curse. All I can do is speak out in hopes of lightening the curse aspect. I feel the way I do, because I have been where that guy is right now, just without the jail aspect. Some people don't know how to take sadistic humor, and that has caused me more than one problem. Do some people dislike me for the things I say? I'm sure they do. Does that really affect me? Not at all. However, as soon as I have police kicking in my door over a joke that put no one in direct harm's way (unlike where the smartass pointed out the "fire" in an airport example earlier, as that causes panic, and panicked people are much like panicked cattle), then something has gone very wrong in someone mind, and it isn't my own.


You need more friends or stay close to them.
They watch over you when you drink to much.
They are there when you need a hand.
They will prevent you from chatting up the wrong person.
They will laugh at your sadistic humor Smile
but remember friends have a sense of humor as well and paybacks tend to be a lot harsher among friends.

Parents teach there kids to be careful of strangers, well that doesn't change when you are an adult.

EVERYBODY KNOWS
Lexmana
#186 - 2013-07-01 14:55:20 UTC
People should lighten up a little. This is just an absurd overreaction of law officials that are afraid of being blamed for the next terroris attack. They live by the fear. Fear is a powerful political strategy. In particular in a country were the real threat doesn't come from terrorist but the toddlers :
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/toddlers-killed-more-americans-terrorists-did-year
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#187 - 2013-07-01 14:57:00 UTC
Simetraz wrote:

You need more friends or stay close to them.
They watch over you when you drink to much.
They are there when you need a hand.
They will prevent you from chatting up the wrong person.
They will laugh at your sadistic humor Smile
but remember friends have a sense of humor as well and paybacks tend to be a lot harsher among friends.

Parents teach there kids to be careful of strangers, well that doesn't change when you are an adult.

Meh, I don't drink...maybe that's my problem...
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#188 - 2013-07-01 15:02:03 UTC
I just did a google search for "Justin Carter". The results are strangely absent of coverage. So, either this 2 month old story is just getting coverage, it may not be true or our "free" (haha) media has incentive not to cover it. We no longer live in a world where mentioning "conspiracy" automatically means you're crazy paranoid.....NSA are you listening?

Don't ban me, bro!
Bud Swellington
CreoDron Industries
#189 - 2013-07-01 15:03:21 UTC
This isn't that surprising, locking up innocent people is as American as apple pie and baseball. Think of the most oppressive countries in the world. We lock up way more of our citizens than they do, but sure land of the free and all that jazz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate

We also keep really good company when it comes to the death peanlty. Top 5 countries that have killed their citizens are, China, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and the good ol' USA. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/mar/29/death-penalty-countries-world.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#190 - 2013-07-01 15:04:08 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
"conspiracy" automatically means you're crazy paranoid


This

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#191 - 2013-07-01 15:07:12 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Oh, and he did not say it in public. He said it in a PM channel.

Or do you feel that anything you say via the internet is in the public forum?


Potentially, yes it could be.

Presumably, none of us were in that channel, yet somehow we all know what was said. Yep, public.

You might want it to be private, but assuming it is would be tremendously naive.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#192 - 2013-07-01 15:07:32 UTC
Mascha Tzash wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:


...(researchers there are jailed if they don't follow the political line about WWII)...



Pretty sure you have some sort of likable evidence or reference. I would like to see it. Smile


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

Scroll down and check for yourself.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#193 - 2013-07-01 15:09:07 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
People should lighten up a little. This is just an absurd overreaction of law officials that are afraid of being blamed for the next terroris attack. They live by the fear. Fear is a powerful political strategy. In particular in a country were the real threat doesn't come from terrorist but the toddlers :
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/toddlers-killed-more-americans-terrorists-did-year



I beg to differ the REAL threat.

Deer-vehicle collisions in the U.S. cause about 200 fatalities annually

EVERYBODY KNOWS
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#194 - 2013-07-01 15:10:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Gallowmere Rorschach
War Kitten wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Oh, and he did not say it in public. He said it in a PM channel.

Or do you feel that anything you say via the internet is in the public forum?


Potentially, yes it could be.

Presumably, none of us were in that channel, yet somehow we all know what was said. Yep, public.

You might want it to be private, but assuming it is would be tremendously naive.

At the time, no it wouldn't. For example, any text messages that you send would be assumed private. That doesn't mean that logs of them won't get leaked into the public forum one day. Hell, even government cables which were supposed to be all kinds of confidential and private are now all over the place. So, if you acknowledge that just because something may one day be public means that it should always be considered public, then you are basically saying that all privacy laws should be done away with, because they serve no real purpose.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#195 - 2013-07-01 15:15:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Oh, and he did not say it in public. He said it in a PM channel.

Or do you feel that anything you say via the internet is in the public forum?


Potentially, yes it could be.

Presumably, none of us were in that channel, yet somehow we all know what was said. Yep, public.

You might want it to be private, but assuming it is would be tremendously naive.

At the time, no it wouldn't. For example, any text messages that you send would be assumed private. That doesn't mean that logs of them won't get leaked into the public forum one day. Hell, even government cables which were supposed to be all kinds of confidential and private are now all over the place. So, if you acknowledge that just because something may one day be public means that it should always be considered public, then you are basically saying that all privacy laws should be done away with, because they serve no real purpose.


No a PM message could have 20 people in it.
And to be honest people join games and think the people they play with are their friends.
In most cases they are NOT, they are close acquaintances at most.
Some may be actual friends but most likely those are the people you met in RL.
Biggest joke around facebook and having 1,000 friends, ummm no think again.
Friends understand your jokes or when you are making them in bad taste or not, if they don't they are not your firend.

EVERYBODY KNOWS
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#196 - 2013-07-01 15:15:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Rordan D'Kherr
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Oh, and he did not say it in public. He said it in a PM channel.

Or do you feel that anything you say via the internet is in the public forum?


Potentially, yes it could be.

Presumably, none of us were in that channel, yet somehow we all know what was said. Yep, public.

You might want it to be private, but assuming it is would be tremendously naive.

At the time, no it wouldn't. For example, any text messages that you send would be assumed private. That doesn't mean that logs of them won't get leaked into the public forum one day. Hell, even government cables which were supposed to be all kinds of confidential and private are now all over the place. So, if you acknowledge that just because something may one day be public means that it should always be considered public, then you are basically saying that all privacy laws should be done away with, because they serve no real purpose.


And that would mean further: A trial against Bradley Manning is obsolete (because something digital sent cannot be private / confidential etc.)

Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#197 - 2013-07-01 15:17:45 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Oh, and he did not say it in public. He said it in a PM channel.

Or do you feel that anything you say via the internet is in the public forum?


Potentially, yes it could be.

Presumably, none of us were in that channel, yet somehow we all know what was said. Yep, public.

You might want it to be private, but assuming it is would be tremendously naive.

At the time, no it wouldn't. For example, any text messages that you send would be assumed private. That doesn't mean that logs of them won't get leaked into the public forum one day. Hell, even government cables which were supposed to be all kinds of confidential and private are now all over the place. So, if you acknowledge that just because something may one day be public means that it should always be considered public, then you are basically saying that all privacy laws should be done away with, because they serve no real purpose.


Yes, abolish privacy laws. I'm sure that's what I was saying.

LOL,

J/K!

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Abon
Pandorum Research Incorporated
#198 - 2013-07-01 15:18:08 UTC
Soo i am a pretty sarcastic guy from time to time and i am a terrorist now? Shocked oh wow.

Can i get an official statement on this?? HELLO NSA OFFICER? You have my email so please respond kk?
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#199 - 2013-07-01 15:18:56 UTC
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:

And that would mean further: A trial against Bradley Manning is obsolete.

To be quite honest, I feel that Manning should not be prosecuted for several reasons (not the least of which being that the government demands it's right to privacy while shitting all over the right to privacy of civilians). That being said, it would require it's own damned thread, and this probably isn't the place for it.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#200 - 2013-07-01 15:20:14 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Oh, and he did not say it in public. He said it in a PM channel.

Or do you feel that anything you say via the internet is in the public forum?


Potentially, yes it could be.

Presumably, none of us were in that channel, yet somehow we all know what was said. Yep, public.

You might want it to be private, but assuming it is would be tremendously naive.

At the time, no it wouldn't. For example, any text messages that you send would be assumed private. That doesn't mean that logs of them won't get leaked into the public forum one day. Hell, even government cables which were supposed to be all kinds of confidential and private are now all over the place. So, if you acknowledge that just because something may one day be public means that it should always be considered public, then you are basically saying that all privacy laws should be done away with, because they serve no real purpose.


Government cables are tapped, even if thousands of feet below an ocean.

Never assume anything is private (I always post publicly as I assume anything online is public and can be leaked or reposted. So no surprises).

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell