EVE General Discussion

It should work both ways if we can bomb them then they can down our ships, the gain or loss should be in both directions. Where is the fun in popping over to a planet lobbing off few shells and that's it ? You get some ISK and no fun. We should be able to chat to the ground hogs on a station, do a deal to bomb a location, any pilot, any ship, the Dust boys risk us missing and we risk getting podded. Or even have defending ships. As it is though what's the point.

I have a Dust Account and I would love more integration with Eve, however before that happens they need to fix Dust.

The concept of Dust is great and the potential is massive but as usual CCP have totally messed things up.

The problem is they can not approach problems in Dust like they do in Eve.. i.e take months to years to fix them.

They need to fix the problems in Dust like yesterday. Most people who play consoles do not want to wait around for months on end for simple things to get fixed, they will simply move on to another game.

I am for NO.
Not in current form of Dust.

I was very hyped about it (I almost bought PS3!), but now when I cooled - I see no way for Dust to successfully integrate with EVE than as a market for items produced in EVE.

EVE is all about waiting while DUST is all about action...

Pass. Well unless they give me a boarding torpedo I can launch at supercaps. That would be p cool.

+1 for a big no no!

The argument that "They wanted to reach console market" is a better one to justify the choice for ps3 launch. However it is still flawed by the fact that launching a PC client simultaneously wouldn't stop console players from logging in. CCP sold exclusivity to Sony who wants to capitalise on ps3 sales to EVE players who are the ones who have the most interest in playing the game. They might have even required it as a condition into letting CCP reach their console market.

Here's what the Sony and CCP Dust514 deal apparently breaks down to:

Sony lets CCP launch "free to play game" game on their console network, pays exclusitivty fee and gets:

-up to 50% on micro-transaction income, a whole EVE player base to entice into buying a ps3 to play Dust514, a exclusive free to play game on ps3 sales ads

CCP delivers "free to play" game and gets:

-50% or more on micro-transaction income, a whole PSN user crowd to entice into going down "the rabbit hole" and subscribing to EVE, a hefty sum of dough from exclusivity fee

If you are an EVE player who would like to play Dust on PC, the best you can do is to not buy or use a ps3 and wait for PC client, which CCP will probably release after their agreement is over.

Yeah, I for one would be spending some bucks on Dust514 in PC client to help the game, and i believe a lot of other PC players would. But since we can't log in we can go spend em somewhere else like Hawken, Blacklight, Cyberpunk 2077, Grand Theft Auto V (which will have multi-platform support)...



yes the youtube girl they hired to babysit the "console audience" right? hahahaha

CCP wouldn't find those cheats. I mean Punkbuster is out and updated and all (plus some other security sites), and players still cheat. There's now paid cheat programs that offer patches to their cheats like Windows has updates. So even Punkbuster's current method of finding cheaters is foiled, because as soon as they buy all the latest cheats to discover them, they're patched.

That's the major downside of FPS games. If it's not cheats the exploits (like the knife exploit for aiming in BF3. Never been patched). I love BF3, but h-a-t-e the cheaters and exploiters (like the C4 blast bunnies killing players from beneath floors). On the Metro servers it's so rampant that if it isn't done you're going "wow, nice server!".

Out of all of those, I am looking forward to Cyberpunk 2077 the most, by far.

Alright, so we all know that DUST is currently underwhelming at best. If it were up to me, DUST would be integrated into the EVE client (or ran as a separate client using the same character -- even today's mid-range gaming computers can run two games simultaneously), and micro-transactions would be eliminated in favor of an extra, say, $10 per month sub.

That said, try for a moment, if you would, to envision what the future could hold.

Imagine docking your ship at an orbital platform, equipping the combat suit from your cargohold, then deploying to the planet surface...it could be one hell of a visceral experience, especially with VR -- so visualize this: via hardsuit, you're propelled from the orbital station, thus beginning your ~30 second journey to the dropzone. As you approach the upper atmosphere, your HUD begins receiving real-time telemetry from the surface in order to aid your approach. A neat implementation here could be the ability to choose between "autopilot" and manual control; where autopilot would err on the side of caution, manual control would allow for additional velocity as well as deviation from the comparatively conservative flight path / trajectory, bringing with it a healthy amount of risk/reward, of course. Finally, mere moments from touchdown, your stomach sinks as for but a brief moment, you find yourself wishing that you had equipped countermeasures instead of those extra stasis grenades....

And this is simply one scenario of but a tiny fraction of the game, one which I pulled out of my ass from maybe ten minutes of thought. Point being, and IMO, the project has the potential to deliver an amazing gameplay experience.