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Is this game really that hardcore

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#21 - 2011-11-08 16:55:57 UTC
CCP Necrogoat wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
In other news, apples taste NOTHING like oranges, despite their constant comparisons.

http://improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume1/v1i3/air-1-3-apples.html


Indeed, a comparison can be made between the two fruits on various levels, including infrared spectroscopy. However, I did specify "taste" in my analogy.

But well-played anyway :)

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#22 - 2011-11-08 16:59:51 UTC
It depends on your objective. Hardcore goals require hardcore pilots.

OP - Go take Delve.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#23 - 2011-11-08 17:00:08 UTC
If you want hardcore don't upgrade your clone and fly with +5 implants installed in Low/Null or WH space and make sure you only fly faction fit faction ships. Should do the trick of putting risk back into EvE for you.

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ivar R'dhak
Deus est Mechanicus
#24 - 2011-11-08 17:19:25 UTC
Hardcore is overrated.

Oldschool is where it´s at.

In my days we got locked and everything there was to go by were some stupid flashing exclamation marks !

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Hienz Doofenshmirtz
Outsourced Manufacturing
#25 - 2011-11-08 17:44:15 UTC
you want hardcore go fly round rancer some time

www.dust514stats.com do you know?
Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2011-11-08 17:46:07 UTC
Part of the 'hardcore' image of Eve is also its complexity and learning curve. Ive played since 2007 and theres still lots for me to learn about the game.

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Myxx
The Scope
#27 - 2011-11-08 18:38:33 UTC
No, not really. Highsec is pretty safe and theres really no reason to worry beyond someone suiciding you for their own giggles and not liking you.

Strings should be cut and it should be made signifigantly less safe.
pussnheels
Viziam
#28 - 2011-11-08 18:46:14 UTC  |  Edited by: pussnheels
If the game was as hardcore as diablo II we all would be the ultimate care bears and just pretty much overtank everything we fly in even our pod
both nul sec and low sec would be totally empty

the game is hardcore in a sense you need plenty ot time, dedication patience and some a do or die mentallity to accomplish your "eve dream"

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#29 - 2011-11-08 19:02:54 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
If the game was as hardcore as diablo II we all would be the ultimate care bears and just pretty much overtank everything we fly in even our pod
both nul sec and low sec would be totally empty

the game is hardcore in a sense you need plenty ot time, dedication patience and some a do or die mentallity to accomplish your "eve dream"


not always... you can also make other players do the 'work' for you...

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Jekyl Eraser
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2011-11-08 19:25:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jekyl Eraser
if hardcore is a measure by comparing chance of loss to amount of loss then you can calculate hardcore value.

WOW
you have 10% chance to die in a minute and you lose 1 minute of death times and travel time. WOW hardcore value is 6.

EVE
avrage pilot loses a BC every 3 hours of gametime and by missioning gets 20mil/hour. chance to lose ship every min is 0.74% and amount of loss is 90minutes. EVE hardcore value is 0.666.

WOW is more hardcore than EVE. Things are not allways what they seem.

Someone else may calculate diablo hardcore value.

Edit: oh yea. diablo 1/1=1. Diablo hardcore value is 1.
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2011-11-08 19:34:34 UTC
This thread is really dumb.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2011-11-08 19:40:09 UTC
Personally, I don't think of EVE as a hardcore game. I think of EVE as a risk vs. reward kind of game in the MMO space which is very uncommon but I wouldn't be surprised if that is what makes EVE a "hardcore" game, that it take years to achieve anything in the game or that you actually lose your stuff when you get blown up.

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Garbad theWeak
#33 - 2011-11-08 19:40:38 UTC
I actually like that EvE is softcore. I like that I don't have to grind 60 hours a week to keep up with the unemployed kids. I like that my intelligence and skill matter more than my gear. But the epicness of 0.0 wars, the consequences of failure, the real loss of spaceships you worked for are all hardcore, too. Its not for everyone, but to me its better than any other MMO.
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
#34 - 2011-11-08 19:49:33 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
If the game was as hardcore as diablo II we all would be the ultimate care bears and just pretty much overtank everything we fly in even our pod


Uhm... Exacly how do I overtank my pod?
SilentSkills
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-11-08 19:50:55 UTC
CCP Necrogoat wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
In other news, apples taste NOTHING like oranges, despite their constant comparisons.

http://improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume1/v1i3/air-1-3-apples.html

troll science, best science
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2011-11-08 19:51:57 UTC
Schmacos tryne wrote:
pussnheels wrote:
If the game was as hardcore as diablo II we all would be the ultimate care bears and just pretty much overtank everything we fly in even our pod


Uhm... Exacly how do I overtank my pod?



You wrap it inside an extra three layers of shields, armor and structure.

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Trainwreck McGee
Doomheim
#37 - 2011-11-08 19:53:22 UTC
this thread is stupid you can do anything hardcore. Guys who lvl 4 12 hours a day are ******* way more hardcore then me.

CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool
Gealla
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2011-11-08 20:39:04 UTC
pfft

Create account

Log in once every 24hrs for skills, once a month later on

Buy plex, sell on market

Buy titan

Game over

Hardcore
Hai Boiz
Jack Daniels Elite Squadron
Fraternity.
#39 - 2011-11-08 20:54:58 UTC
When I can buy something sexy in the NEX shop, seduce an unsuspecting flyboy, slit his throat and loot his still warm corpse, I will consider this hard core.

If he loses a bunch of SP for his foolishness, so much the better.

XX
Tear Miner
Doomheim
#40 - 2011-11-08 20:57:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tear Miner
Diablo Hardcore is made for the Asian (mostly Korean) market, honestly. They like to grind the hell out of stuff. Just look at Lineage, Lineage 2, et. al.

Eve is not an MMORPG that originates from these types of games. Your comparison fails, apples meet oranges.