EVE General Discussion

Winter is coming.

Now we just need some ******* to throw someone's kid out of a metaphorical window and it'll be WAR, WAR EVERYWHERE.

pretty colors make it more impressive
but there's probably less than 100 people from any of those alliances in game and operational at any given time.

a map of Nebraska can seem pretty impressive also, but when you go there you discover its a bunch of empty

Make travel harder. Jump bridges, jump range, split regions up more. Toss in lowsec and maybe even a couple hisec "outpost" systems.

Require joining sov systems to claim another, no more claiming every 3rd or so system to skew the map. Increase sov costs but also benefits.

It should be difficult for an alliance to control an entire region.

Apparently wolves fly at least metaphysically - so its all a wash. Also, that story is never, ever, going to end.

It depends on the goal of the small group. If you're talking about a fast moving fleet of, say, 20 vagas and associated ships than realize right now there is no real "defense" of these small groups.

Sure, eventually a defense fleet is mustered.... usually a spattering of BCs or whatever... and at that point if the small roaming fleet chooses to fight then you have one, but if they want they just leave and things go back to normal.

If you mean about defending from a full invasion in order to take the system, It's highly possible to attack, depending. It's incredibly complex. The numbers game comes into play here and to be honest a tiny alliance brute forcing an invasion into the heart of a large alliance's territory would be foolhardy and is fine.

The problem is the coalitions formed, and to be honest nothing can be done to prevent that- even if CCP decided to change things up and try to penalize coalitions eventually a way would be made around it. People want blues nearby, and reds within reach. Always.

What needs to be done is more enocouragment of small, controlled areas the size of constellations and less desire for regional control.

More curiosity than anything else, but what can smaller raiding parties accomplish anything that can't be prevented by simply finding safe spots as soon as Local spikes? I've never lived in 0.0 for more than a month so I honestly don't know.

Can small groups actually cause any damage before getting blobbed to kingdom come?

Penalizing or rewarding different areas of control (regional/constellation) should probably be part of it. Requiring neighboring sov should be part of it as well.

But, if that group of 20 vagas comes into your sov, you have less to lose by docking up and playing xbox than to fight them off. The ideas of allowing small groups to disrupt infrastructure still isn't enough. That's just a griefing mechanic and doesn't really do anything to destabilize sov.

Here's a thought though. What if we looked at sov like a board game? (Right now, it's nearly the worst board game ever... Candyland has more strategy involved.) What if each alliance was given 4 tokens, 3 defensive tokens, 1 offensive. In every system without a defensive token all sov structures have 1/10th their current HP (this is balanced by your idea of only allowing to claim sov in neighboring systems.) The offensive token would allow an alliance to attack the sov of 1 non-adjacent system. Such a system would still allow surprisebuttseks, would still allow coalitions to work together, would make it easier to clean up after a failscaded alliance, would make claiming sov a strategic decision, but also make groups that get too big vulnerable to attack.

Except, again, any idea that threatens the RMT alliances will NEVER get implemented, thanks to Grayscale.

CCP has heard your question and has generously given you something to blow up. Player owned customs offices...a structure that means so little that the blobs won't care about it. Enjoy!

This is the first good suggestion in the entire thread.