Science & Industry

Listening to soundwave , that champion of high sec income streams, on the Eve Radio replay state flatly that no place should have perfect refine and soon shall should not exist anywhere in the game.

So you can imagine how bad the nerf is coming to high sec mining income.

And null sec propagandists, don't bother stating that this will just mean increased mineral costs across the board, since most of null sec and ALL of wh space already has this mechanic. This is geared as another attack against high sec income.

Oh, and he just said that he has no interest in curtailing large coalitions.
Guess that explains the philosophy of the game designer that came from goons.

And one of the DJ's just said "point on the ship where the nasty goon touched you", in reference to soundwave's comment about the alliance tourney prizes, and soundwave did not correct him.
Guess that settles whether he is STILL a goon.

I don't even know where to begin with this post...

Perfect refine isn't so much against the miners as it is against those who take mission loot and refine it instead of selling it. Also, those who compress down minerals in to guns and ship them to nullsec to be refined and turned in to a Supercarrier. And yes, it would bring a price rise to minerals. That is basic economics talking.

And 0.0 coalitions run the game. Anything CCP would do to try to limit our growth would be circumvented.

And really I don't understand why you would mine in highsec when you can make so much more isk out in 0.0. Also, 0.0 is safer than highsec. So it really is a win-win.

The trouble with nullsec is you have to spend so much time and energy licking the boots of your alliance masters. And listening to them brag how big their genitalia are. Believe it or not, a primary reason so many people play in highsec is so they can be independent and not put up with all the political nonsense associated with nullsec. ISK per hour be damned.

He is the lead designer of EVE online, so while what he says isn't a guarantee of anything, his opinion carries a lot of weight in what will actually be implemented in the game and shouldn't be casully dismissed.

Good, let them nerf hi sec into the ground.

It's a technique called slowly raise the heat on the frog and it won't know it's getting cooked.

Reason I don't care...if they want to take the game in some imaginary tough guy everybody grabbing everybody a s s and have one great big PVP fest then they should do so, see if it works out for them.

Then they can best learn which customer they need to serve if it's whomever ...that's the problem with nerds they have trouble socially.

Goons aren't the problem the problem exist cause CCP cannot wrap their heads around why many don't want to head off to low sec or nully.

All what will happen is that miners won't sell on their minerals now but wait for the inevitable price hike or anticipated price hike.

All this comment is going to do is to drive up prices in the meantime and if this happens, after the event.

And if mineratls become more scarce after this change then all that will happen is that the prices will go up for everything and the economists had better watch out for Eve Inflation.

Do you have a link to 'his' comments? A lot of rumours actually come from or are attributed to 'him' and more often than not they don't happen at all or they appear in a weakened form. Worrying never did anyone any good so we will just have to wait and see.

Not wishing to be personal but it's a pity 'he' wasn't moved instead of CCP Unifex. Companies/employers should seek to keep their customers/workforce happy and contented. Not rock the boat all the time.

Yeah, indeed interesting that the null sec cartel CSM members (who were candidates at the time) were shouting for this months ago, then went silent publicly, and soundwave then announces it on Eve Radio. Guess the CSM has zero influence on the game, and that all these people fighting tooth and nail to get onto the CSM don't recognize it as the most effective lobby tool in the game, but just merely an epeen thing.....

As for the link, here it is. Check out the first half for the lead game designer's comments about wrecking perfect refine.
There may be more tidbits of joy from him, but I could not stomach listening to the 2nd half. I may try today, if I can restrain from wrecking my headset listening to him.


http://www.eve-radio.com/downloads/viewdownload/2/22

And for those that suggest that , well if they nerf refining, then prices will just rise, and the status quo will be maintained, ask yourselves "if that is the case, then why introduce the mechanic at all?".
This nerf will be designed to redistribute wealth towards one sec status area over another.

WH space has always been screwed with then hard cap on POS refining. That cap should be removed completely btw, but CCP made their opinions about permanent wh life very clear at Fanfest.
Null sec can almost achieve perfect refine with the proper stations and skills, but it is not perfect.
High and low sec are the targets here.

Chic Botany, at the moment null sec gets less efficiency than HS, why not change that by improving efficiency, no point to nerf HS.

I have to say I agree with that original quote, its not just the Goons, but a majority of the people in 0.0. So any misguided attempts to shift people from HS to 0.0 actually reduce the numbers that play, I mean grinding via mining or PVE is so mind numbingly boring, that to make it take even longer to get what you need for more enjoyable parts is plain stupidity and teh idea of reducing refinary rates in HS is stupid...