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Best PvE faction besides Caldari?
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Tarmaniel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-06-29 20:57:41 UTC
ExcalibursTemplar wrote:
So it can get up near 2k dps which is what Tarmaniel is claiming (he said double the Golems DPS) ?


He was talking about a cruise Golem, not torps.
ExcalibursTemplar
CANZUK
#22 - 2013-06-29 20:58:11 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
1077 on the nightmare with 4 faction heatsinks and IN Multi, 1045 on the golem with 4 faction bcus, fury missiles, both with 5% damage implants. in general the application of both is pretty good. now with t1 missiles and 1 bcu the golem only does 502 dps, so clearly the nightmare has double the deepz!

I still love the nightmare.


I want one myself as it's a cool as **** ship (so are all the ships that get mentioned in these threads), use wise I'd probably stick to incursions with it though.
ExcalibursTemplar
CANZUK
#23 - 2013-06-29 20:59:41 UTC
Tarmaniel wrote:
ExcalibursTemplar wrote:
So it can get up near 2k dps which is what Tarmaniel is claiming (he said double the Golems DPS) ?


He was talking about a cruise Golem, not torps.


A cruise Golem can get over 1000 dps now.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#24 - 2013-06-29 21:04:32 UTC
My Mach is still getting 1400 DPS guns and add 100dps to 200dps depending on what drones I use. Ranges from 4000m to 70km pretty easy, I just don't know why anyone would not chose Mach.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-06-29 21:20:02 UTC
Trouble I find is the Mach can't get that DPS out whilst hitting always weakest resists -
Fair play in angel space but after that...Not so hot. Then there's the whole falloff thing.

Don't get me wrong it's a fun ship but when the debate is ruthless, crushing efficiency the only answer (for me) is multiple hulls.
Tarmaniel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-06-29 21:31:24 UTC
ExcalibursTemplar wrote:
A cruise Golem can get over 1000 dps now.


Well I just checked this again, apparently they can now. That's what I get for not flying a missile boat for over a year.
Robert Saint
The Grumpy Dogs
#27 - 2013-06-29 21:58:00 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:
My Mach is still getting 1400 DPS guns and add 100dps to 200dps depending on what drones I use. Ranges from 4000m to 70km pretty easy, I just don't know why anyone would not chose Mach.


How?

I know the specs of the guns, but I've used them in missions.. I think my last toon was around 1100 DPS or so all and all, but could hit 3k to 60km with the standard BattleClinic fav, but was only effective DPS in a best range of 30k or less and speed setting of non afterburner. At that range it would melt the BS, but getting there was tiring. I got tired of flying to the 130k world's collide targets, etc.. and back again... so perhaps it's a change up as others have said to change the ship depending on the mission, but that's only for Vets who have years of skilling different ships/guns... If it's one Mission runner ... .it take some thinking.
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-06-29 22:15:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Morrigan LeSante
Hail is how you get that kind of DPS.

And that's the thing....I can take a TFI...yes, yes granted...***FAR*** weaker tank to be sure, to STUPID crazy DPS numbers - but its selectable damage and is flat right out to lock range. And the TFI is merely for example, the RNI is *right* behind it, if you fit it correctly.

That said, the mach is [still] quite some machine if one only had ONE choice, it's a *very* good one. If you have the luxury of several...use several. Of course, anyone able to properly fit a competitive mach...has no excuse for not being able to affford alternates.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#29 - 2013-06-29 23:19:51 UTC
My two Machs Stats:

[Statistics - Goldiee]
Arties, Quake 17,934m – 113,286 m
Volley Damage: 16,288.62
DPS: 1,174.72

Auto-cannons, Hail 3,998m – 46,609m
Volley Damage: 5,244.50
DPS: 1,597.21

Effective HP: 92,398 (Eve: 78,586)
Tank Ability: 858.86 DPS

Spare everyone the long fitting post, fitting a Mach is not rocket science; guns, gyros, TE-II, TC-II, MWD... fill in the blanks

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
stoicfaux
#30 - 2013-06-30 00:02:26 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:


Auto-cannons, Hail 3,998m – 46,609m
Volley Damage: 5,244.50
DPS: 1,597.21

Overheated and 6% implants?


Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#31 - 2013-06-30 00:04:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Goldiiee
stoicfaux wrote:
Goldiiee wrote:


Auto-cannons, Hail 3,998m – 46,609m
Volley Damage: 5,244.50
DPS: 1,597.21

Overheated and 6% implants?



Not overheated just 6%x2 and a set of 4 sentries, depending on what I am fighting.

Edit: Made me curious so I turned in heat,
Volley Damage: 5,887.17
DPS: 1,800.79

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
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