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Yun Kuai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-06-28 08:01:50 UTC
I too keep dreaming that one day the problem of OGB gets toned down to something manageable and counterable without having a "pay-2-win" second account. I can only hope that CCP has been continuing their new best practice of only disclosing and then releasing information/new game content after it has been thoroughly thought through.

The topic of OGB is a touchy one because a lot of people have invested into these toons, so I can understand why CCP doesn't want to completely eliminate them from the game, but I can sure as hell say that a lot of people are considering leaving because of them.

As for those simple fixes that would take a matter of a few minutes re-coding:
1. Which of these options is the best choice to fix broken OGB in Eve?
a) Limit the Command Processor to only be fit on CS and Carrier Hulls
b) Change POS shield mechanics to not allow any module to be activated inside the shield
c) Reduce the defensive skill bonus to 2% per level on Tier 3's
d) All of the above


CCP has easy options that would not require boost to come on grid, but wouldn't make them completely OP in their current form. Laziness I guess...

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ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#42 - 2013-06-28 18:41:51 UTC
Quote:
b) Change POS shield mechanics to not allow any module to be activated inside the shield



i keep reading this alot and its total BS most pilots fleet or solo use there boosters from deep safes in space when roaming. They dont have a pos in every system of the game just for boosts the cost of that would be ridiculous

OGBs arnt invincible and not p2win either because you are not gaurenteed to win

HTFU

BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
Raptors Mole
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-06-29 11:37:26 UTC
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
Quote:
b) Change POS shield mechanics to not allow any module to be activated inside the shield



i keep reading this alot and its total BS most pilots fleet or solo use there boosters from deep safes in space when roaming. They dont have a pos in every system of the game just for boosts the cost of that would be ridiculous

OGBs arnt invincible and not p2win either because you are not gaurenteed to win

HTFU


OGB does make a **** pilot appear average, an average pilot appear good, a good pilot appear excellent. It does give a huge advantage in performance otherwise nobody would use them. I do believe Command Boosting has a place in fleet warfare though - how that is best achieved is still up for debate. Does need fixing though.

So if you "Solo" with an alt providing OGB, you are in fact "Paying to improve performance".

"UTFU"

U = understand.
SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2013-06-29 12:18:24 UTC
Good Sirs;

I want to pay to win--I just don't want to fool with the second account. CCP doesn't have to code anything extra, just have them boost me for an extra 15 bucks a month and I will buy. Its the logging in and training the other account thats a pain.

I understand they want more money and I am all for it--but do we have to go through all the rig-a-marole of flying a second ship around?

your humble servent
SeaSaw
Elvis Fett
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2013-06-29 14:47:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Elvis Fett
I am no fan of OGB there should not be reward where there is no/minimal risk. If a ship is going to determine the outcome of a fight it should have to be in that fight with risk of being blown up. But if we are not going to force OGB on grid or nerf them some otherway, at the very very very least boosted ships should get a very noticeable animation. Think like an invul field but less opaque and more noticeable. Then at the very least people can make proper decisions on if they engage or not, and not just be surprised by a ship that is 50% stronger than it should be.

Heck this small change may make forcing boosters on field irrelevant. All the "elite solo pvp'ers" may turn into real solo pvp'ers when noone will engage their double boosted frigs solo anymore.

Oh yeah and boosters should show up on killmails too. You didn't really engage 2v1 like that killmail says, it was 2v2 if you have a booster.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#46 - 2013-06-29 16:02:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Regarding no risk.

If OGB are so common, it should be quite rewarding to train and invest in a perfect scanning alt.

A typical booster has 10k ehp.

Sure a probing alt is not as glamorous as a OGB alt, but then everything has its place. I persoanally have no probing skills on either toon but have been involved in a number of ganks on caldari FW booster alts that have been probed down thanks to people who put some effort in.

As for visible markers that a ship is boosted, thats a good idea. No real problem with the boosters showing up on mails either. Id just rather people put effort in to kill them if it bothers them so much.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#47 - 2013-06-29 16:54:46 UTC
I just want to add:

POS shields, in or out is not really an issue.
It's not like you want to warp to a POS and kill a booster alt who is outside.
Unless you had planned a POS engagement to begin with.
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