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Four Horsemen pvp gang concept
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Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-06-28 01:27:39 UTC
Pretty sure this has been done a lot, but with the balance and other changes maybe its different now.
Basically I want to try to organize a four ship gang in which each ship represents one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Mostly just to goof around in low/null.
So I ask you, what ships would fit each profile? What sort of weapons and mods? Would they work well together in a gang?

War - probably the easiest. Drake or Typhoon maybe. Kinda like sticking with projectiles or missiles on this one. Probably Navy Issue.

Famine - Starving a ship sounds like cap warfare. Curse?

Pestilence - I could only think Falcon really.

Death - vague and difficult, but Nightmare comes to mind.

Not only do I want to figure ships that fit the profile well, but a gang that works well together in terms of capabilities that complement each other. Thoughts?
I Sellsstuffz
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-06-28 12:48:10 UTC
my translations are off but id hate to see this combo

War - Macharial

Famine - Bhalgorn

Pestilence - Scorpian

Death - Nightmare

for the 4 horsemen id imagine they use BS's though pestilance could use an ashimmu too i guess.

though really the 4 horsemen should all be pimping out apoc's if you'll excuse the pun
Alara IonStorm
#3 - 2013-06-28 12:57:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
War/ Roll around in a Badger full of ISK, you will get your war.
Death/ Then ignore that they've declared war and mine in a Mack AFK.
Pestilence/ Bring out your mission ship to get vengeance for your Mack. Then ***** and moan endlessly in Local for hours about its loss, I guarantee everyone will feel a little sick.
Famine/ Don't forget to keep a Noctis around to collect all your war winnings.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-06-28 14:43:24 UTC
First there are 5 horsemen of the apocolypse... Kaos just left before they became famous.... Blink

Death - Avatar

War - Leviathan

Pestilence - Erebus

Famine - Ragnarok

Kaos - Cyno Bait ship of any discription...

No Worries
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-06-28 16:13:43 UTC
Trying to make a setup involving ships smaller than BS as well. Ugh, I wish the Phantasm didn't suck.
David Kir
Hotbirds
#6 - 2013-06-28 23:05:36 UTC
War: Zealot
Famine: Curse
Pestilence: Falcon (or
Death: Deimos

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
Leon Audacity
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-06-29 00:02:31 UTC
I picture a drone boat for pestilence.
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-06-29 00:39:39 UTC
Leon Audacity wrote:
I picture a drone boat for pestilence.

Drones are the flies. I dig this.
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-06-29 01:44:33 UTC
Perhaps: [Proteus, Pestilence]
True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Armor Explosive Hardener II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Microwarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
Warp Disruptor II

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Medium Nosferatu II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating
Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor
Proteus Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors


Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Ogre II x4
Valkyrie SW-600 x3
Valkyrie TP-600 x2



Alternatively swap the augmented cap for a PCM and the drone synthesis for a hybrid propulsion armature, have fewer reloads, still be able to field some drones up to medium size, and get a bit better direct damage support as well as more grid for bigger guns and two medium cap warfare mods in the high slots.

Also bear in mind that the SW/TP drone setup is more a nod to practicality due to stacking penalties on multiple webs. If two more webber drones aren't going to be terribly effective swapping them for something that might be of more help might be a better choice.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#10 - 2013-06-29 11:15:22 UTC
Pestilence should obviously be a off grid booster.

Seeing how OGB's are viral badness.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#11 - 2013-06-29 11:23:35 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
Kaos - Cyno Bait ship of any discription...


FOUR HORSEMEN ONLY, GROUPIES WAIT OUTSIDE!
stup idity
#12 - 2013-07-02 11:43:45 UTC  |  Edited by: stup idity
Hakaimono wrote:
Pretty sure this has been done a lot, but with the balance and other changes maybe its different now.
Basically I want to try to organize a four ship gang in which each ship represents one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Mostly just to goof around in low/null.

...

Not only do I want to figure ships that fit the profile well, but a gang that works well together in terms of capabilities that complement each other. Thoughts?



There are so many possibilities here and it probably depends on how much you want to spend, what you can fly and what you personally consider to have the most style.

War:
High dps, high (buffer-) tank.
Astarte, Absolution, Legion, Proteus.
Or for shield: Ham-Tengu, Sleipnir.

Death:
Anything that says 'I will kill you now' and makes sure that this statement will become true, therefore: heavy tackle, preferrably with bonused webs or scrams.
A Heavy Interdictor with scripts and sensorboosts. Proteus with long points and cloak, Loki with long webs and cloak.
Maybe arazu or vigilant.
Or any other ship that can tackle fast: Sacrilege maybe.

Famine:
Curse sounds good. Or Pilgrim or neut Legion with cloak.

Pestilence:
Falcon is ok. Or again Arazu, this time with damps. Even Curse/Pilgrim with tracking disruptors could work here again.


Pure Amarr Setup:
War: Absolution
Death: "fast tackle" devoter
Famine: Curse
Pestilence: Curse

Put some armor-rep drones on the Curses to even have some remote repair.

Cloaky Setup:
War: Any high damage, high tank ship - no cloak on this one.
Death: cloaky Scram-Proteus or Web-Loki, Arazu or maybe Rapier.
Famine: Falcon or Arazu
Pestilence: Pilgrim or cloaky Neut-Legion

Pirate Cruiser Setup:
War: Cynabal
Death: Vigilant
Famine: Ashimmu
Pestilence: Gila with Ewar drones

Mini Horsemen Setup:
War: Any assault frigate or Navy Frigate or similar
Death: Daredevil, Hyena or any Interceptor
Famine: Sentinel or Cruor
Pestilence: Kitsune or Keres

'Cheap' Setup - I changed the roles a little bit for this one:
War: ASB fit Cyclone or a tanky Prophecy
Death: Any Attack Battlecruiser
Pestilence: Blackbird or Celestis
Famine: Neut Armageddon or again Celestis/Blackbird (as in giving them no targets to feed at)

Maybe you could specify in what direction you want to go, so we could come up with a more detailed setup.

I am the Herald of all beings that are me.
THE FOURTH HORSEMAN
Circle Of The Seven Seals
#13 - 2013-07-02 14:04:38 UTC  |  Edited by: THE FOURTH HORSEMAN
Hmmm, 'A Pale Horse'
THE SECOND HORSEMAN
Circle Of The Seven Seals
#14 - 2013-07-02 14:08:04 UTC
No i believe a 'Red Horse' will suffice

Big smile
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-07-02 14:51:34 UTC
Oh look! Horsemen!
stup idity
#16 - 2013-07-02 15:03:48 UTC  |  Edited by: stup idity
THE SECOND HORSEMAN wrote:
No i believe a 'Red Horse' will suffice

Big smile


Hey Guys, can I join your club?
After all Stupidity is quite an apocalyptic thing and will most certainly bring mankind close to extinction if not further one day.

And I have another setup for the OP:

The four Gnosis of the Apocalypse:

[Gnosis, war]

5x 425mm AutoCannon II (Hail M)

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
2x Stasis Webifier II
Warp Disruptor II
Small Capacitor Booster II (Cap Booster 75)
Tracking Computer II

2x Gyrostabilizer II
2x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II

3x Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

5x Hornet EC-300
5x Valkyrie II

[Gnosis, death]

5x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II (Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile)

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
2x Sensor Booster II (Scan Resolution Script)
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Target Painter II

2x Ballistic Control System II
2x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II

2x Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I

5x Vespa EC-600
5x Light Armor Maintenance Bot II

[Gnosis, famine]

3x Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
2x Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
4x Tracking Disruptor II
Small Capacitor Booster II (Cap Booster 50)

Capacitor Power Relay II
3x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
2x Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

5x Light Armor Maintenance Bot II
5x Vespa EC-600

[Gnosis, pestilence]

Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense II
2x Salvager II
3x Dual Light Pulse Laser II (Scorch S)

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
5x 'Umbra' White Noise ECM

2x Signal Distortion Amplifier II
2x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II

Medium Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
2x Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

5x Vespa EC-600
5x Light Armor Maintenance Bot II

I am the Herald of all beings that are me.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#17 - 2013-07-02 15:04:27 UTC
So, are you guys like bronies or something?
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

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Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#18 - 2013-07-02 16:07:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Tinu Moorhsum
Hakaimono wrote:
Pretty sure this has been done a lot, but with the balance and other changes maybe its different now.
Basically I want to try to organize a four ship gang in which each ship represents one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Mostly just to goof around in low/null.
So I ask you, what ships would fit each profile? What sort of weapons and mods? Would they work well together in a gang?

War - probably the easiest. Drake or Typhoon maybe. Kinda like sticking with projectiles or missiles on this one. Probably Navy Issue.

Famine - Starving a ship sounds like cap warfare. Curse?

Pestilence - I could only think Falcon really.

Death - vague and difficult, but Nightmare comes to mind.

Not only do I want to figure ships that fit the profile well, but a gang that works well together in terms of capabilities that complement each other. Thoughts?


If I'm not mistaken the 4 horsemen in the bible were

War,
Famine,
Conquest,
Death,

Conquest (pestulance... whatever, let's not split hairs) was the first to be released, came into the world aggressively (hell bent on conquest) and shot arrows. In an EVE context this obviously has to be a missle ship of some kind with fast locking that can go for your initial tackle. So I'm thinking Onyx. Infinite point and missles makes it fit the m.o.

War was the second to come. He held a sword and rode a firey horse. Obviously this means in an EVE context that he'll be your hard-hitting thermal damage doing beast. There's only one choice for that. The Hyperion.

Famine was next. He didn't have a weapon at all. He carried scales and decided who would get what. The power to give and the power to withhold sustanance... so I'm thinking in EVE context that famine has to be either a Curse (the taking mood) or an Oneros (the giving mood).

One guy left, Death. He killed by unleasing the wild beasts of the earth. So this obviously has to be a drone boat of some kind and there's only one drone boat in EVE that is on the same level as a hyperion and a good match for it in PVP.... it's got to be a Dominix.


edit:

On second thought, I think I'd opt for a vindicator over a hyperion because of webs. Famine goes in a guardian (energy xfer + reps) and the domi will need a couple of neuts to compliment the gang to make it a little more sturdy against small stuff.
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-07-02 18:52:47 UTC
Tinu Moorhsum wrote:

One guy left, Death. He killed by unleasing the wild beasts of the earth. So this obviously has to be a drone boat of some kind and there's only one drone boat in EVE that is on the same level as a hyperion and a good match for it in PVP.... it's got to be a Dominix.


edit:

On second thought, I think I'd opt for a vindicator over a hyperion because of webs. Famine goes in a guardian (energy xfer + reps) and the domi will need a couple of neuts to compliment the gang to make it a little more sturdy against small stuff.


Why not go with the armageddon then for death? Drone and vamp/neut bonuses as well as missile fitting capacity.
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-07-02 19:10:56 UTC
Shereza wrote:
Tinu Moorhsum wrote:

One guy left, Death. He killed by unleasing the wild beasts of the earth. So this obviously has to be a drone boat of some kind and there's only one drone boat in EVE that is on the same level as a hyperion and a good match for it in PVP.... it's got to be a Dominix.


edit:

On second thought, I think I'd opt for a vindicator over a hyperion because of webs. Famine goes in a guardian (energy xfer + reps) and the domi will need a couple of neuts to compliment the gang to make it a little more sturdy against small stuff.


Why not go with the armageddon then for death? Drone and vamp/neut bonuses as well as missile fitting capacity.

Bhaalgorn would be my Death BS of choice, but if I don't want to be pricey, Armageddon would be a good "pale horse"
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