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[Question] Clarification on Storyline Missions

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Reiko Hakui
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-06-28 19:33:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Reiko Hakui
Okay, quick question, can anyone clarify how to get Storyline Missions for a certain corp? Basically I am running missions for Seb Tribe atm and want my Storylines to come from there agents (for obvious reasons), however whenever I get my storylines atm I'm getting them from Six Kin (despite that agent being 4 jumps from where I am and a Seb Tribe storyline agent being only 1 jump away). Can anyone give me some clarification here or even help me out?
Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
#2 - 2013-06-28 19:46:59 UTC
I don't know if the specifics of how the storyline agent is chosen are known and predictable, but what I would do in that situation is use Agent Finder to find a storyline agent of the appropriate corporation and level, and from there find the nearest regular agent.
Reiko Hakui
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-06-28 20:18:06 UTC
Zor'katar wrote:
I don't know if the specifics of how the storyline agent is chosen are known and predictable, but what I would do in that situation is use Agent Finder to find a storyline agent of the appropriate corporation and level, and from there find the nearest regular agent.


Thats literally what I did yet its still sending me to that same agent, gonna try leaving the mission open for that agent and do another 16 to see if it gives me a agent I want :)
voetius
Grundrisse
#4 - 2013-06-28 20:22:48 UTC

A few years ago when I ran alot of missions for jump clones it was the case that the nearest storyline agent was the one that you were sent to. So you could, by carefully selecting an agent, control who you got storylines with.

This is no longer the case, there is some element of randomness in it.

I'm a careful reader of dev blogs and I have never seen any mention of a change here.

One thing I'm reasonably certain of from getting some standings for my trade alt(s) is that if you have a storyline agent in the station you have the normal agent in, you should get a storyline there.
Reiko Hakui
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-06-28 20:23:51 UTC
Hmm thanks for the reply Voet, if my plan doesn't work then I shall try that :)
voetius
Grundrisse
#6 - 2013-06-28 20:25:57 UTC

just read your reply. Leaving the mission open could be interesting, hopefully it will increase the chance of getting a storyline from your preferred agent.

There is no downside, except for time wasted, as you can let storyline offers expire without penalty.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-06-28 20:26:50 UTC
Reiko Hakui wrote:
Okay, quick question, can anyone clarify how to get Storyline Missions for a certain corp? Basically I am running missions for Seb Tribe atm and want my Storylines to come from there agents (for obvious reasons), however whenever I get my storylines atm I'm getting them from Six Kin (despite that agent being 4 jumps from where I am and a Seb Tribe storyline agent being only 1 jump away). Can anyone give me some clarification here or even help me out?

OK, let me get this straight.

You're running missions for Sebiestor Tribe and there's a Sebiestor Tribe Storyline Agent 1 jump away yet the game keeps sending you to a Six Kin Storyline Agent 4 jumps away.

Right?

If so, this just might be the problem. You're probably in a border system next to another Region. The Sebiestor Tribe Storyline Agent is probably in that other Region. The game probably keeps sending you to the Six Kin Storyline Agent located 4 jumps away due to that agent being the nearest Storyline Agent in the same Region.

Anyway, check and see if there's a regular Sebiestor Tribe agent located in the same system as the Sebiestor Tribe Storyline Agent. Doesn't matter what Division it is, just make sure it's the same level that you're currently working.

Let's say your regular agent is a level 2 Sebiestor Security Division Agent and there's a level 2 Sebiestor Mining Division Agent with a Sebiestor Storyline Agent located 1 jump away in another Region.

Just do 15 missions for your Security Agent, then travel to the Mining Division Agent and do the 16th mission. That will open up the Sebiestor Storyline Agent.

This should help - http://eve-agents.com/



DMC
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-06-28 20:34:12 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
voetius wrote:

A few years ago when I ran alot of missions for jump clones it was the case that the nearest storyline agent was the one that you were sent to. So you could, by carefully selecting an agent, control who you got storylines with.

This is no longer the case, there is some element of randomness in it.

I'm a careful reader of dev blogs and I have never seen any mention of a change here.

One thing I'm reasonably certain of from getting some standings for my trade alt(s) is that if you have a storyline agent in the station you have the normal agent in, you should get a storyline there.

The game still sends you to the Storyline Agent nearest to your 16th Agent.

The mechanic is like the Market, it only looks at the Region you're currently in.



DMC

Reiko Hakui wrote:
Zor'katar wrote:
I don't know if the specifics of how the storyline agent is chosen are known and predictable, but what I would do in that situation is use Agent Finder to find a storyline agent of the appropriate corporation and level, and from there find the nearest regular agent.


Thats literally what I did yet its still sending me to that same agent, gonna try leaving the mission open for that agent and do another 16 to see if it gives me a agent I want :)

All it's gonna do is make another Storyline Agent within the same Region offer you a mission. That Agent will probably be even further away than the Six Kin Storyline Agent.


DMC
Reiko Hakui
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-06-28 21:17:00 UTC
Ah that makes alot of sense thanks peeps :) Will look at doing that region hop when it comes to it, much appreciated
Swidgen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-06-28 22:48:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Swidgen
I don't always run missions for Minmatar faction standings, but when I do, I use the L4 Sebiestor Tribe agent in Eram. More than once I've run a mission from that agent that's #16 in the sequence to get a Storyline mission, and I have always gotten that Storyline mission from the Six Kin agent in Vullat.

Vullat is 1 jump from Eram and in a different region (Heimatar vs Metropolis). I think a lot of what's written above is wrong. Storyline missions come from the nearest faction Storyline agent regardless of what region they're in. The only exception is when you already have an outstanding Storyline mission from an agent, in which case the next nearest Storyline agent (for that same faction) will offer you the mission.

Disclaimer: I haven't run any Storyline missions for anyone since March so it's possible the mechanic has changed. I highly doubt that, however.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-06-28 22:59:35 UTC
Swidgen wrote:
I don't always run missions for Minmatar faction standings, but when I do, I use the L4 Sebiestor Tribe agent in Eram. More than once I've run a mission from that agent that's #16 in the sequence to get a Storyline mission, and I have always gotten that Storyline mission from the Six Kin agent in Vullat.

Vullat is 1 jump from Eram and in a different region (Heimatar vs Metropolis). I think a lot of what's written above is wrong. Storyline missions come from the nearest faction Storyline agent regardless of whether or not they're in the same region. The only exception is when you already have an outstanding Storyline mission from an agent, in which case the next nearest Storyline agent (for that same faction) will offer you the mission.



I still stand by what I said. I've never received a storyline agent mission from another Region. I've definitely got them in other Constellations and Systems, but never in another Region.

Since neither of us have provided any proof / pictures, guess it's safe to say it never happened.

Anyway, I'm sure the OP will get an answer soon enough.



DMC
Swidgen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-06-29 01:32:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Swidgen
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Since neither of us have provided any proof / pictures, guess it's safe to say it never happened.

Well, it happened and I have some pictures Big smile It was almost 2 years ago and I was running Level 3 missions for Ewlang Eode, a Sebiestor security agent in Eram (Metropolis region). 16 missions for him on 3 August 2011 over 6 and a half hours. I did the old copypasta from my transaction histories into a spreadsheet. Here you can see my standings gains with him and Sebiestor Tribe tracking along with them: Agent and NPC Corp Transaction Log

I completed the 16th mission at 09:26 and received a Storyline mission from Aekelm Ontbald who works for Six Kin in Vullat (Heimatar region). It was the 10-part Storyline mission called "Guristas Strike". I started Part 1 and finished it at 09:44. I toook my time with it and finished Part 10 two days later on 5 August at 04:39. Here you can see my standings with the Storyline agent increasing for each part, my Six Kin standings increasing along with them, and my Minmatar faction standings boost at the end: Storyline, Six Kin and Minmatar faction standings Notice there were no other Minmatar faction standings increases (that can only come from Storyline missions) in between.

You can choose whether or not to believe me, but I distinctly remember those missions because it was the first time I tried to get a Storyline mission from a specific agent and it didn't work the way I expected. In this case I wanted to get the Storyline mission from Iddur Gulako in Arlek 2 jumps from Eram (Core Complexion). I was surprised when it came from an agent in a different region, but that's what happened. Vullat is 1 jump away from Eram in a different region and that's where the Storyline mission came from, not Arlek which is in the same region but 2 jumps away. I remember being ticked off because standings with Six Kin aren't something I was looking for, but the big gain with the Minmatar at the end of the 10-parter more than made up for it Cool
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#13 - 2013-06-29 03:56:57 UTC
leave the storyline from the agent you don't want open.
Iri'yana
Corvus Technologies
#14 - 2013-06-29 06:20:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Iri'yana
I can confirm that the game does not rule out storyline agents in other regions. Did at some point level 4 mission for CPF in Inaro in the Citadel and had storylines for Spacelane Patrol a few jumps into the Forge region. Unpas system, three jumps away.
Kithran
#15 - 2013-06-29 08:31:37 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
voetius wrote:

A few years ago when I ran alot of missions for jump clones it was the case that the nearest storyline agent was the one that you were sent to. So you could, by carefully selecting an agent, control who you got storylines with.

This is no longer the case, there is some element of randomness in it.

I'm a careful reader of dev blogs and I have never seen any mention of a change here.

One thing I'm reasonably certain of from getting some standings for my trade alt(s) is that if you have a storyline agent in the station you have the normal agent in, you should get a storyline there.

The game still sends you to the Storyline Agent nearest to your 16th Agent.

The mechanic is like the Market, it only looks at the Region you're currently in.



DMC

Reiko Hakui wrote:
Zor'katar wrote:
I don't know if the specifics of how the storyline agent is chosen are known and predictable, but what I would do in that situation is use Agent Finder to find a storyline agent of the appropriate corporation and level, and from there find the nearest regular agent.


Thats literally what I did yet its still sending me to that same agent, gonna try leaving the mission open for that agent and do another 16 to see if it gives me a agent I want :)

All it's gonna do is make another Storyline Agent within the same Region offer you a mission. That Agent will probably be even further away than the Six Kin Storyline Agent.


DMC


This is incorrect

You get the storyline from the closest storyline agent of the same faction irrespective of whether or not that agent is in the same region as the agent who gave you the 16th agent.

One thing to remember though - if you already have a storyline mission offered (or even expired but still listed in your journal as expired) you will not get another storyline mission from that agent.

Also I think you may get a degree of randomness with regards to which storyline agent is used if there are two an equal distance away.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-06-29 10:05:12 UTC
Nice to see people contradict themselves in an effort to prove me wrong.

I especially like how everyone keeps saying you get the storyline offer from the nearest storyline agent in the Faction, regardless of Region location.

Yet they still fail to explain why the OP is getting sent to storyline agent 4 jumps away instead of the storyline agent 1 jump away.

If they do try to explain it, they say it's random.


OK so which is it? Nearest Storyline Agent of the Faction or just RNG.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-06-29 10:30:23 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
OK so which is it? Nearest Storyline Agent of the Faction or just RNG.


From personal experience i would say both are wrong, i tried picking a level 4 agent with a storyline agent from the same corp 2 jumps away hoping he would be the agent giving me storyline missions, and he was not the only storyline agent giving me missions.

I think it's random what corp gives you a storyline mission, and you then get the closest storyline agent from the corporation.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Reiko Hakui
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-06-29 10:36:02 UTC
Wow, didn't expect to start a major discussion on this topic :).

I appreciate all the replies and when I do figure out how they give the storyline missions (I am going to leave the one from Six Kin open and not complete it to see) I will post here and hopefully give everyone some answers so we can all be happy and fly safely (And get the missions we want!).

Again thanks to all who have replied.
Iri'yana
Corvus Technologies
#19 - 2013-06-29 12:24:06 UTC
I'm a bit at a loss aobut the whole problem, checking on it on the agent finder. Two Seb. Tribe sqotryline agents, one in backwater high-sec system Hakeri, the other in low-sec Eugrana. One Six Kin agent in Vullat. And there is no system in New Eden that fits the 1&4 distance theme of the inital posting.

So I assume an error in the inital situation and stick to the general mechanic of closest storyline agent of same faction regardless of regions, system sec. Etc. Only randomness I so far encountered is when two agents are the same number of jumps away.

Is one of the inital posting agents maybe an agent for an epic arc or the old distibution cycle missions?
Rengerel en Distel
#20 - 2013-06-29 13:03:31 UTC
Iri'yana wrote:
I'm a bit at a loss aobut the whole problem, checking on it on the agent finder. Two Seb. Tribe sqotryline agents, one in backwater high-sec system Hakeri, the other in low-sec Eugrana. One Six Kin agent in Vullat. And there is no system in New Eden that fits the 1&4 distance theme of the inital posting.

So I assume an error in the inital situation and stick to the general mechanic of closest storyline agent of same faction regardless of regions, system sec. Etc. Only randomness I so far encountered is when two agents are the same number of jumps away.

Is one of the inital posting agents maybe an agent for an epic arc or the old distibution cycle missions?


My guess is the OP is running missions in Aldik, which is one jump from Eurgrana. Since Eurgrana is low sec, the OP probably has the autopilot set to avoid low sec, and the storyline mission uses that to avoid the low sec storyline agent.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.

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