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Black Dranzer
#81 - 2011-11-08 14:56:49 UTC
I don't like the Raven. It tries to look heavy and formidable but it just looks kind of fat and off balance. I love the new condor design, but the new Raven looks too much like the old Raven.

If it were up to me, the Raven would look something like this (Amateur artist warning)

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Astra Solare
Ophidia in herba
#82 - 2011-11-08 15:04:04 UTC
Black Dranzer wrote:
I don't like the Raven. It tries to look heavy and formidable but it just looks kind of fat and off balance. I love the new condor design, but the new Raven looks too much like the old Raven.

If it were up to me, the Raven would look something like this (Amateur artist warning)


CCP You should hire this guy since his Raven is waaaayyy better than Yours models (both: old and new).
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#83 - 2011-11-08 15:15:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Ciar Meara
Astra Solare wrote:
Ciar Meara wrote:
Symmetry is the work of the devil. I like asymmetry in all of the Caldari ships.

Humans like symmetry. mostly it goes back to nature - symmetry is sign of good health and genes, while asymmetry shows problems in organism. Since nature and humans was created by God that means that symmetry is feature of things intended by god.



Clearly heretical talk! I in fact am human and I love asymmetry, in fact most human faces are asymmetrical, look into it.

I think you'll find the most "attractive" people are those with assymetrical faces and curves. Human nature loves asymmetry!

Now where did I put those matches...

edit: I would also like to add that the above posted ship looks like any generic spaceship outthere, no flavour, no curves no asymmetry so, no sexy. I find it sad that they removed the orcale (former mentor) sidebridge because now it is symmetrical

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#84 - 2011-11-08 15:49:24 UTC
Dr Prometheus wrote:
Here is a comparison between old and new model (Extracted from Sisi build with TriExporter.)

So yes it looks like the Raven but has a nice improved model now;

http://eve-files.com/dl/249186

and

http://eve-files.com/dl/249187

Also i found, not sure if this is serious or not; New Rokh skins; Kaalakiota and Ishukone for example. I can post them if people want? :) (Colors aren right, but you can se how they will look.)


If you haven't posted the Rokh please do...and that new Raven looks just as fail as the old one. I don't mind asymmetry so long as it is reasonable. Look at the new Naga for an example of proper reasonable asymmetry. But when the ship looks deformed because one side is drastically larger than the other...it just looks horrible.

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bornaa
GRiD.
#85 - 2011-11-08 15:53:01 UTC
Avila Cracko wrote:
ok... i get it... we are stuck with ugly raven... as i can see on SiSi...
can we at least get some moving parts?
like radar dish??? or something like that???
or something moving that no other ship has... to make raven special and wow in some way???
raven is iconic ship... make it gooooood...


+1
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Avila Cracko
#86 - 2011-11-08 20:02:54 UTC
Astra Solare wrote:
Black Dranzer wrote:
I don't like the Raven. It tries to look heavy and formidable but it just looks kind of fat and off balance. I love the new condor design, but the new Raven looks too much like the old Raven.

If it were up to me, the Raven would look something like this (Amateur artist warning)


CCP You should hire this guy since his Raven is waaaayyy better than Yours models (both: old and new).



lol

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#87 - 2011-11-08 20:25:02 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Dr Prometheus wrote:
Here is a comparison between old and new model (Extracted from Sisi build with TriExporter.)

So yes it looks like the Raven but has a nice improved model now;

http://eve-files.com/dl/249186

and

http://eve-files.com/dl/249187

Also i found, not sure if this is serious or not; New Rokh skins; Kaalakiota and Ishukone for example. I can post them if people want? :) (Colors aren right, but you can se how they will look.)


If you haven't posted the Rokh please do...and that new Raven looks just as fail as the old one. I don't mind asymmetry so long as it is reasonable. Look at the new Naga for an example of proper reasonable asymmetry. But when the ship looks deformed because one side is drastically larger than the other...it just looks horrible.


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m3talc0re X
The Motley Crew of Disorder
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#88 - 2011-11-09 00:23:41 UTC
Have some cheese...

Anyway, to the dude moaning about the Mauler, are you serious or trollin'? I LOVE the new Mauler skin and I think the Khanid skin on it is sexy as hell. I love the platinum on satin black finish and the model is sleek and masculine. Whoever designed it, modeled it and skinned it did an awesome job.

As for the new Raven, wait for it with it's texture to make a judgement. These new skins are breathing whole new life into these ships. Caldari ships have grown on me, but I've always hated the Moa model. But now, even the Moa actually looks fairly decent with the new skins. I can't wait to see the Minmatar and Amarr skins.
Rusty Waynne
Rusty Waynne Corporation
#89 - 2011-11-09 00:56:33 UTC
I'll be honest, the two look practically identical to me.

Very little difference between the old and new model.
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2011-11-09 01:44:25 UTC
Rusty Waynne wrote:
I'll be honest, the two look practically identical to me.

Very little difference between the old and new model.



And you won't. CCP has toy models to sell, after all.
m3talc0re X
The Motley Crew of Disorder
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#91 - 2011-11-09 03:29:51 UTC
The models would become collectors items of old... So that's not an issue.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#92 - 2011-11-09 08:27:58 UTC
Im sorry but there is no way I can improve the raven without destroying the raven unlike the moa redesign I did.

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Dayfox
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#93 - 2011-11-10 13:24:53 UTC
My own rendering of the 2 models next to each other:
Front left
Rear left
Front

The only texture I have applied is a wire line so you can zoom to see the detail.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2011-11-10 14:11:13 UTC
Well...it's a good thing the Naga can fit Torps. I can continue ignoring the existence of that ugly ass Raven just like I do now. These new Battlecruisers are going to be a lot of fun I think...

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#95 - 2011-11-10 15:03:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
Nyla Skin wrote:
The biggest thing that bugs me about the raven model is the miniscule bridge-thingy in the front.


That miniature bridge thingy is where you store your e-peen. It's also called a "codpiece". If you are good enough, CCP may allow you to get a bigger one over time. Possibly through the NeX store /troll
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#96 - 2011-11-10 15:05:39 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Well...it's a good thing the Naga can fit Torps. I can continue ignoring the existence of that ugly ass Raven just like I do now. These new Battlecruisers are going to be a lot of fun I think...


How much fun is it going to be when you are the first to be called primary all the time when people find out how little tank they have? Sure do your pew pew for 30 seconds. Have fun.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#97 - 2011-11-15 18:58:48 UTC
Rejoice! The new Raven has no skinny neck! \o/

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#98 - 2011-11-15 19:00:29 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Well...it's a good thing the Naga can fit Torps. I can continue ignoring the existence of that ugly ass Raven just like I do now. These new Battlecruisers are going to be a lot of fun I think...


They removed torp bonus from the Naga. It instead gets a damage bonus to hybrids.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#99 - 2011-11-15 19:29:42 UTC
The new raven is out though and it looks beasty.

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Caiman Graystock
Starways Congress
#100 - 2011-11-15 19:32:41 UTC