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inter-corp dueling etiquette
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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-06-27 22:08:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Praxis Ginimic
When you are shooting at your friends for the lols what is the general etiquette?
Do you stop at structure or play for keeps?
Do you refund your mate's loss?

I don't normally engage in consentual pvp but boredom drove me to it. Despite my pal's large buffer tank the fight didn't feel very fair. He didn't know what a vexor could do & after kiting half his armor down I let him into web range and brawled him to space dust.

Not being well versed in friendly fights, it didn't occur to me to turn off the guns. What you duelers do?
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-06-27 22:13:12 UTC
Depends on the corp your with... some dislike awoxers... err green on green action while others welcome it.
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#3 - 2013-06-27 22:17:57 UTC
When both parties agree to some friendly dueling you put up some rules beforehand. If you agree on to the death then that is what you do.. Otherwise you stick to what is agreed.

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#4 - 2013-06-27 22:17:59 UTC
Unless both parties have agreed on "to the death" before the fight you should stop at low armor in my opinion.
Blowing someone up can become very...lets just say that it can lead to someone rage quitting the corp, even if a reimbursement is given Lol

And yes, if you blow someone up by accident you should reimburse them, unless they tell you not to worry about it.

Others might feel differently but i think it goes more on the general morals and attitude within the corp, so ask your corp members what they normally do.

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Vincent R'lyeh
Screaming Hayabusa
#5 - 2013-06-27 22:22:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent R'lyeh
Unless specifically agreed to stop at a certain point then imho a duel is until ship loss.

Podding is generally a no no......

And afterwards you return whatever survived the assplosion

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Peri Simone
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-06-27 23:45:21 UTC
Note: don't shoot your corpmates whilst waiting around on a gate and then not have any tank left when some guy jumps into system and starts shooting you.

Hey Vince o/
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#7 - 2013-06-28 00:03:05 UTC
Stop shooting if they pay a large enough ransom. Otherwise, go for the pod.

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-06-28 02:02:35 UTC
Thats is exactly what I was hoping to find. Everyone seems to have their own take on what the proper etiquette is. If there was some standard that I had failed to observe due to ignorance then I might feel bad about it.
As it turns out... I'm a pirate so I play for keeps.


Also
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Stop shooting if they pay a large enough ransom. Otherwise, go for the pod.

(Also see signature)


I <3 you. We should scissor sometime. And your signature rocks. Can I quote you?

@everyone who thinks I should have stopped shooting or reimbursed the loss. There weren't any hard feelings. Right after the fight he grabbed a logi boat and we headed out to pick on the neighbors. Many good fights were had by all...except for the jag pilot that jumped in with poor timing...he thought it sucked
Anti-social Tendencies
Society for Miner Education
#9 - 2013-06-28 02:48:26 UTC
What the OP doesn't get is that what we think doesn't matter one whit. What matters is what your "pal's" expectations were.

In my corp we, try out our fts on each other all the time but the idea is to improve and test out our fits. To destroy another's ship would be considered very bad form unless it was agreed to ahead of time. We view our Corpies as our teammates whom we have to be able to trust and rely on. Shooting their ship out from under them is not conducive to that end.

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-06-28 03:31:12 UTC
Actually you're right. I was checking to see if there was some existing consensus among EVE players on the issue which in retrospect is fcuking rediculous. Eve players can't even agree on whether or not undocking is a universal consent to lose your ship. Just incase any wants perspective on what we expected of eachother here is how it went down:

Praxis> frig 1v1 for lols?
Corpy> I don't have any in sys just this cruiser
Praxis> ah, cruisers it is then
Corpy> at the sun at 0
Praxis> K

Of course being the dastardly fellows we are I warped to the sun at 20 just to find that he had warped in at 30. I think that shows the level of trust that we have for eachother in Hydra. We just like to blow stuff up. Yours, mine, theirs...whatever
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-06-28 03:32:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Praxis Ginimic
Oops. Double post. Stupid smartphone Oops
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#12 - 2013-06-28 03:54:56 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Thats is exactly what I was hoping to find. Everyone seems to have their own take on what the proper etiquette is. If there was some standard that I had failed to observe due to ignorance then I might feel bad about it.
As it turns out... I'm a pirate so I play for keeps.


Also
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Stop shooting if they pay a large enough ransom. Otherwise, go for the pod.

(Also see signature)


I <3 you. We should scissor sometime. And your signature rocks. Can I quote you?

@everyone who thinks I should have stopped shooting or reimbursed the loss. There weren't any hard feelings. Right after the fight he grabbed a logi boat and we headed out to pick on the neighbors. Many good fights were had by all...except for the jag pilot that jumped in with poor timing...he thought it sucked



Feel free to quote, and feel free to shoot blues.

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Maika Mabata
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-06-28 07:04:42 UTC
It really depe3nds on each single case and the terms of the duel. I've fought people both till hull or till death. But always on pre arranged settings.
And if stuff went wrong (death on till hull fight) we usually agreed together to reimburse or not.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#14 - 2013-06-28 07:21:05 UTC
Also, try to scram his Pod and, if successful, let him sweat a bit before releasing him.
That should teach him to ALWAYS get his Pod out as soon as possible, no matter the circumstances. Cool

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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#15 - 2013-06-28 09:33:54 UTC
It's proper form to agree beforehand at what level you will start to de-agress.

We usually duel to the ship's death, then grab the KM and evaluate the fits. Most of our duels are "for the lulz" T1 frig fights anyway, so it doesn't murder the wallet at all. I prefer to test expensive fits on Singularity. Not so much because of the risk, but because it's easier there to just test many different or obscure things without having to spend much ISK, or haul equipment.

The main exception VS corp / alliance mates is that I do not kill the pod, I merely warp scramble it to see whether or not my opponent knows how to save his pod.