EVE General Discussion

The connection I think DUST should have is the one that goes from the toilet to the sewer.

People want compelling gameplay, bells and whistles quickly fade....

My impression is CCP didn't envision DUST and EVE interplay from the angle of ongoing compelling gameplay, but more based on technical gymnastics alone.

i.e. Focus was on an orbital bombardment mechanic, without a more holistic and robust philosophy around how that mechanic (or others) will create real compelling interplay between the two ecosystems on an ongoing basis.

For example, I am yet to launch a single orbital bombardment myself, because beyond the cool technology pronz demo videos, that action and gameplay isn't compelling to me and my experiences in EVE on a daily / ongoing basis. The action doesn't affect my wallet, my ships, my travels through space, my interaction with corp mates or other players. The action is irrelevant, the interplay is whats important.

THATS the core of where they missed the boat.

FIRST you conceptualize compelling interplay between the two, how they are going to have meaningful and real impacts on each other (markets, sovereignty, etc); THEN come up with the mechanisms around that.

Who put that bounty on you??

Tell me I want to kill that idiot right now !!

WTF? -I need that isk, he could have sent it to me for a better use and instead put a useless bounty over you like over many dudes to flood my wallet with 40 000 isk and crap alike !!


Tell me now who's that pitch !! I wanna kill it so hard you can't imagine !!!

i was stoked about dust514 when i saw the trailer with the moros dreadnaught, then seeing that you cant use a dread but with small guns, sortta, defeated my whole intrest in the game.

Yes. Fully integrate it, but not to the point where one depends on the other. It would be nice if pilots got ISK for each kill achieved by orbital bombardment. That would get a lot more people interested in it. I like how it affects FW. All these things are what made me come back to EvE after years away.

Add anything that makes the world seem more complete, even WiS for Mercs and capsuleers. EvE has always seemed more like a MMO RTS, but with the addition of dust, CQ, PI, and hopefully WiS, it'll seem more like a fully immersive MMORPG. I want to feel like a capsuleer when I log in, not a generic ship hull in space or a pic in a text box.

What the hell is up with all this negativity.

Think outside the box and you will note that the integration of EVE and Dust has SO MUCH POTENTIAL.

Dust was launched only a month and half ago. Give it some time and smart folks at CCP will make further integration that will make both universes exciting and worth defending for.

Introduction of Dust hasn't in any way, adversely affected EVE financially. You can keep vouching for EVE to continue to be a niche market space game, but if you read the news, there are at least a half dozen major space-related titles coming out in the market. You will most likely say "Ah look at what happened to Black Prophecy. Eve will remain supreme." With that kind of pompous attitude, there is only one direction for EVE; down the hill.

EVE needs to adapt so it not only appeals to a meager 300k-500k players, but the rest of the untapped millions for sustainable growth.

Dust's success ensures more cash-flow for EVE Online. More cash-flow equals more contents for EVE Online.

I agree, DUST should have always been an expansion to the EVE PC client in the following manner:

Dock ship
Enter Captains Quarters
Enter Combat Ready Room
Equip Armor and select weapons
Enter Battlefield Ready Room
- select vehicle fittings
- select battle
- choose side
- short animation of ships leaving station for planet
- load Dust interface


TaDaaah! Prettier game, better resources, better integration, better performance, larger battlefields, larger teams
yadda yadda yadda CCP really missed the boat here

consoles didn't need another FPS, free or not.

EVE PC players paid for the financing of DUST, they should be able to play the game from their PC

*edit* This would have also given the WIS team, Team Avatar, additional prototyping and work to implement. This would have somewhat satisfied the WIS crew who are wanting more WIS content and would be the 1st time players would have interactivity beyond emotes. Now that they have done the cross-platform milestone for purely PR reasons, I only hope that they would implement a plan like mine. I hardly pick up my console controller anymore because my PC is just soo much better, and I have a game controller for that too which works really well with games that port to PC *wink wink* CCP *cough*

when/if they ported dust to the PC then yes i would love to see a real connection. that or make eve 64 bit and add dust into the client.

I don't care about Dust, why even doing this?
Why CCP is trying to force connection between two games with unnecessary things or stuff that can be made in game itself?
I wont go "wooohoo huuuuray" because some dude in different game do something.
It's just bad design from the start...

I would rather want FPS or RTS game implemented into EVE itself to be able to play it

An expansion of PI would help the connection between DUST 514 and EVE. I do like the suggestion of RTS elements getting put in there.

IMO, as others have also said, a move to PC would really help with this to get EVE players more involved. Putting it on a console where the game play isn't all that different from the likes of other shooters (often being likened to Battlefield), telling the audience that there's a meta game available, and putting that meta game behind console communication tools really makes it difficult to get those console players to become invested in it.

I get the move of attempting to reach out to another audience and introduce them to the EVE universe. The connection between the two games is underdeveloped since the connections are slim. More robust economic ties (manufacturing equipment/weapons by EVE pilots, funding Merc Corps from EVE) with meaningful impact in EVE that's outside of Faction Warfare.