EVE General Discussion

Why not both?

Goons have spent ages making enemies in a closed off world. There's only a finite amount of 'political space' for them to kick about in and **** people off.

To me, it seems that maybe they've just made too many enemies in their time in game, and it's reached a bit of a critical mass. Where, combined with their smugging, people have found the conditions right and enough other people feeling the same that they are turning around and going 'you know what, let's kick 'em in the teeth and take them down a peg or two'



s'my 2p

[quote=Mark Androcius]THAT i do find funny about goons... they utterly hated bob back in the days for what they were and did.
but NOW goons are no better then what BoB was :)
so they Hated what they have become today :) gj goons

reason why i dislike goons is their interaction within ccp on affecting the game considering how many goons/ex goons work there now and this so called democratic voting for CSM where alliances make a vote list for their members to vote how the leadership wants.
and with the mittani there for a while i can only presume alot has been done in "favor" of goons or how they play the game.




*cough* titan nerf *cough*

Hate goons, hate test, love the fact they are killing each other.

So, I am basically looking for reasons why people hate the Goons.

I really don't see a valid reason for it, except for of course, they are so successful and we envy you for that.

Anyway, here's a list of possible reasons, plus their debunk.

You got ganked during Hulkageddon.
Well, you were warned WAY WAY WAY in advance, in fact, you couldn't even log into the game without being WELL notified of the event.
Therefore, any loss of mining barge during this period, in name of the goons, is entirely on you not paying attention and not being part of the eve community ( more likely, you are just here to make isk per hour and F anything else is your average attitude )

You got ganked during burn Jita
Basically, same rules apply.

You were part of a sov holding corp that got booted out by Goons.
Well, it's the name of the game I'm afraid, you failing to hold that sov, has nothing to do with them cheating or anything, more with them applying the superior tactics and mentality.
Again, this is not a reason to hate, merely a reason to envy.


And now, the TEST thing, why so many people seem to help TEST, simply because they hate the Goons.
You guys do know TEST got hold of sov because Goons helped them right?
You guys also know they were friendly towards each other for a really long time right?
You guys do know TEST backstabber the Goons first right?
So, considering this, if any of the above mentioned reasons for hating Goons is your reason for hating Goons, why are you helping a backstabbing alliance?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend right?
Well, all it's gonna do is replace "evil" with a new "evil" ( in case TEST manages to succeed somehow ).


So basically, all I'd like to know is, could you post why you hate the Goons? and also, please refrain from using the already mentioned reasons, unless you have something constructive to say about my debunking.

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