Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm currently living in Amarr space, having been playing the game for less than a month and I just had the misfortune to bump into a Pirate incursion in high sec, losing my ship ( A bitter pill ) and my cargo by being curious.

If an event in this game happens in high-sec (Predominantly colonised by new and curious players) which is vastly different in difficulty scale to the rest of the area, I feel there should be some notification as to the difficulty spike and here's my reasoning.

As someone who made my isk so far by soloing DED sites, I wasn't expecting to run into Battleships, scrams, target painters and webbers hitting me almost the second I drop out of warp.

There is no way in game to see what a Incursion consists of, yes there's the wiki, but not everyone knows of that either.

You do a good job of alerting to other significant dangers, like criminal players and scram attempts by players but not mention of the dangers of the incursion

I'm not suggesting to gimp them, or plaster a tutorial on your screen the second you warp into the places, but there are many discreet ways of informing people that would be less than difficult for the dev team to implement such as the following,

Considering the assault points take place in deadspace pockets, a simple text window similar to that of a DED description site with a short paragraph hinting at the massive and deadly fleet on the other side of the acceleration gate.

An addendum to the local chat notification you receive on entering the besieged system.

I understand that EVE has a trail by fire method of teaching it's players and I definitely understand the importance of the sites adding variety to the PvE aspects of the game, but a minor change could make a big difference to the gameplay experience people will receive in there first few weeks with the game.
I am not expecting these changes to be implemented merely suggesting some small additions that could help

Heh, Im not suggesting WARNING EXTREME DANGER. Merely, a lore-style paragraph description similar to that you'd get entering any level of DED and I definately do see where your coming from. I too have enjoyed learning by trail and error and I'm not bitter over losing my ship ((Even though it was a Navy issue Caracal )). I'm playing by the philosophy of don't fly what you can't afford to replace.

That's a good philosophy to have, definitely.

One problem with your suggestion of having a text box pop up every time you enter (or warp to) one of those incursion sites is that they're not supposed to be newbie friendly content and those who actually do them would probably complain if suddenly they were getting a popup window every time they went to a site. These things have to be considered from all player's and play style's angles and a happy medium reached.

So whilst it might help those new players who accidentally go to these sites without understanding what they are the first time they do it, it would annoy the heck out of everyone else.

Howeverm, from what you said, once you're in warp you're stuffed as you get scrammed and webbed as soon as you land and most ships would enter warp before the player had absorbed the text in one of those message screens so the number of people this would help is probably far less than you think. Unless you have the message stop you from warping until you've interacted with the popup window (clicked a "yes, I really want to warp here" button) it wouldn't really help a lot of people and if you included this button it would really annoy everyone who currently does these sites.

The benefit simply doesn't balance out the potential negative sides.

As I said, I understand losing your ship is annoying and you would like it if that didn't happen to other people but it does serve a valid purpose. It eases people into the concept that their ships are going to get blown up. For me, this was the most important lesson in EVE. For one thing, for those that can't take the harsh and cruel aspects of EVE it's better that they realise that sooner rather than later and move on. EVE isn't for everyone.

So when you take these things into account, whilst it is an intersting suggestion it isn't really a sensible thing for CCP to do.

One last point on the subject: I read these forums a lot and get frustrated with how often people post things that have been posted before. However, I haven't seen anyone post this before (although one might have slipped through my net I suppose) so it doesn't seem like it's generally a problem.

EVE is all about exploring and making mistakes, losing your ship and hopefully learning from those mistakes.

Hopefully you've learnt that in incursion systems, all rats are replaced with incursion rats and you will die.

Send me an evemail with a link to your lossmail.