EVE General Discussion

Sooo...you want to bring four characters, with two players...to get a "clean kill" on a solo Loki? What exactly is your definition of clean?

One where he dies and we don't.
This dude will attack everything from Shuttle to BS to Indy ships.
So yea I want to take this dude out to a nice sea food dinner and never call him again.

I like this :-) Couple of PvE players giving PvP a try, go for it.

Trap :-) Nice.

You can also do it this way, first to jump and make him take the bait should be a more tanky 'bait' ship, it doesn't need to have high dps, instead use the PG to fit it with extra tank, like two plates, or one 1600 plate and resists mods or one armor rep. a T1 cruiser should do fine (Rupture or Thorax are good options).

Do it on a gate if you can, then you'll have gate guns as well to help you (but, then you also have to finish it in 1min because he can deagro and jump if he gets scared when the other ships jump in, and Lokis can be very tanky).

So he attacks you bait ship, and once you have scram (not disruptor) and web, the others jump in.
More webs. Have a web on every ship. Hopefully he continues attacking your bait ship killing it slowly, but he's good with stress situations he'll switch once the others jump in.

Get in your optimals and overheat your DPS. The other 3 ships should have relatively high DPS fits. If its T1 cruisers give them a couple damage mods each (like Gyrostabilizers for Autocannons or Magnetic Stabilizer for Blasters), a gank Thorax would do you good here, as he will be tripple/quado webbed and your dps will land fine, an AB ganky assault frig would be fine as well.

Goodluck ;)

If you fight fair you are doing it wrong. No military in the world wants a fair fight. They prefer the least fair fight possible because it allows them to win with the least amount of loss. Take this lesson and apply it to Eve.

Edit: Also Logi away his damage. Soloers hate Logi.

Aren't login traps against the rules?

Out of curiosity, is this player called Lacal?

blob warfare best warfare. fit a cyno, catch him on a planet/gate, point/web him and cyno in like 20 dudes to murder him.

couldnt be easier.

Hidden tackler - something like a recon parked near you to tackle him. A hero tackle fit SB can work but that has far more risks due to how thin-skinned they are.

Loki = TD's to neutralize his guns then melt him.

4 ships shouldn't be needed and 4 in system may make it a bit obvious - especially if 2 or more are from the same corporation.

This is not WoW. Stop talking about WoW; it makes you look silly. Things are different in this game, which is, in fact, older than WoW and has its own separate culture and ways of doing things.

I mean seriously, I too have played WoW for years and I understand that it is the most popular MMO in the world, but that doesn't mean that every other MMO's gameplay has to be compared to WoW's. Especially not EVE's, ffs.

4:1 taking out that Loki wouldn't give the Loki pilot more "street cred". The pilot would be short of a Loki, is the reality of the situation in this game, and the winners would have a sweet killmail.

WTF? How long have you been playing EVE? No, it is not against the rules. Happens very often. There are several pretty decent HS 'PVP' alliances which do this on an almost daily basis.


I use to think about 'honor' and all that stuff but eventually had to give in to the dark side. This is EVE. There are way too many sh*tty people who are willing to do anything to win. You either lose often, quit or just play EVE the way EVE needs to be played. Do not try for a 'fair' fight. Do what you have to do to win. Chances are the other side is doing everything in their power to make sure your ships explode and not theirs. If 4 PVEers are needed to take on 1 experienced PVPer then do it. Either his ship explodes or some of yours will. What's it going to be?

OP, i think you are overreacting. if you want to run the mission, just go and do it. if you want to kill him, forget it. he wont engage 3 people or more on a loki, so you wont get a kill unless you do something gimmicky like a log -on gank, and that's a crap advice... because you will turn the local lowsec pirate into your sworn enemy if he loses a ship to such shenanigan he will gank the crap outta you, forever.



if hes territorial, he will probably be gate camping. that means 720mm loki split into EM/Phased plasma, or 650mm, either one with long webs, long faction point, prop and sebos. so the moment what he shoots at doesn't pop, he will start burning away or simply warp off. specially if suddenly 2 or more people jump in system.

if hes really territorial, and wants to stay on grid after a volley best way around it is to get one alt on a celestis, put a cloak on it and 3x range damps + SEBO. lose the gate cloak, instalock, loldamp. then you and your buddy just warp to mission, while you move the alt to a safe. just don't smack talk in local.

he will get at most one volley on the celestis, before starting to ***** in local. considering a celestis can get upwards to 40k ehp, there's no way he can kill it.

if he wants to probe you down, he will either refit to 425mm, dropping long point for scram and sebos. OR drop sebos for a second long point and kite with the 650mm. that's assuming he will stay on the loki. (not likely)

if its the first, have you and your buddy drop ecm drones at the same time and jam once hes really close, or if stays 650mm, burn towards him for a moment, then drop ecm drones and burn in the opposite direction to shake the point.

both scenarios end with you and your fleet mate making it back to high on one piece, just make sure he agresses first.

and for ships, run the mission with 2 canes, drakes, or ruptures. those ships can field a full wing of light drones and fit for RR, with a mean local passive tank. and, unless you go leeroooy and pull the whole room, they are more than enough to do a lvl4.