These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
123Next pageLast page
 

Goonhate under the magnifying glass

First post
Author
Mark Androcius
#1 - 2013-06-27 11:30:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Mark Androcius
So, I am basically looking for reasons why people hate the Goons.

I really don't see a valid reason for it, except for of course, they are so successful and we envy you for that.

Anyway, here's a list of possible reasons, plus their debunk.

You got ganked during Hulkageddon.
Well, you were warned WAY WAY WAY in advance, in fact, you couldn't even log into the game without being WELL notified of the event.
Therefore, any loss of mining barge during this period, in name of the goons, is entirely on you not paying attention and not being part of the eve community ( more likely, you are just here to make isk per hour and F anything else is your average attitude )

You got ganked during burn Jita
Basically, same rules apply.

You were part of a sov holding corp that got booted out by Goons.
Well, it's the name of the game I'm afraid, you failing to hold that sov, has nothing to do with them cheating or anything, more with them applying the superior tactics and mentality.
Again, this is not a reason to hate, merely a reason to envy.


And now, the TEST thing, why so many people seem to help TEST, simply because they hate the Goons.
You guys do know TEST got hold of sov because Goons helped them right?
You guys also know they were friendly towards each other for a really long time right?
You guys do know TEST backstabber the Goons first right?
So, considering this, if any of the above mentioned reasons for hating Goons is your reason for hating Goons, why are you helping a backstabbing alliance?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend right?
Well, all it's gonna do is replace "evil" with a new "evil" ( in case TEST manages to succeed somehow ).


So basically, all I'd like to know is, could you post why you hate the Goons? and also, please refrain from using the already mentioned reasons, unless you have something constructive to say about my debunking.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2013-06-27 11:33:46 UTC
TEST Icicles can eat my waste material

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-06-27 11:40:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Ace Uoweme
Mark Androcius wrote:
So, I am basically looking for reasons why people hate the Goons.


Goons = Wal-Mart.

http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/cities-of-exuberance/stopping-the-big-boxes

'nuff said.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

Six Six Six
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-06-27 11:42:17 UTC
Goons and TEST hate each other?

Find that hard to believe, although the way the Goons (some members of) used to talk about TEST like TEST were their lap dogs it shouldn't surprise me too much if they really have.



I don't hate the Goons or TEST although I often don't agree with them or what they do. Hate is such a strong word it suggests there's some kind of emotional attachment.
Sour Jelly
#5 - 2013-06-27 11:45:25 UTC
They paid 15$ to join an internet forum.

inb4 "I didn't pay"

Yeah right, I'm sure you paid twice to get a little picture for your avatar.

so sad.

But this isn't the only reason just part of it. What is the desire to join an internet forum like that? Where does it come from? I would posit it comes from a deep seated desire to be special. To be part of an exclusive club, an "in-crowd" and the community of SA reflects that. Indeed Goonswarm in EVE reflects this mentality, of elitism, false superiority, unabashed neckbeardism.

It's loathsome. I actually loath goons, as people. I very rarely run into them in real life, but when I do I loath them. That guy standing in line wearing sweatpants which aren't fully covering his butt, with his gut hanging out? Wearing a smug look of contempt upon his countenance? Yeah, that's a goon and I hate him.
Mark Androcius
#6 - 2013-06-27 11:47:10 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Mark Androcius wrote:
So, I am basically looking for reasons why people hate the Goons.


Goons = Wal-Mart.

'nuff said.



Well, if my guesswork is not to far off, this war could be a very decisive one.
Looking at the numbers during the history of eve, i see many alliances who have or have had sov.
This number of alliances is slowly going down and is turning into bigger alliances holding more sov, in stead of many alliances holding little sov.

If TEST wins this war, they will become the biggest entity in eve, if Goons win, they will be the biggest.
Either of them winning, will result in a truly gigantic alliance/coalition, holding never before seen sov numbers.

So yes, in that regard, wal-mart makes sense, but it would count for both of them.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7 - 2013-06-27 11:47:25 UTC
Sour Jelly wrote:


It's loathsome. I actually loath goons, as people. I very rarely run into them in real life, but when I do I loath them. That guy standing in line wearing sweatpants which aren't fully covering his butt, with his gut hanging out? Wearing a smug look of contempt upon his countenance? Yeah, that's a goon and I hate him.




No, that's a mirror

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-06-27 11:50:01 UTC
WE'RE BAD AND WE SHOULD FEEL BAD.
Sour Jelly
#9 - 2013-06-27 11:50:24 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:

No, that's a mirror


Oh, lel! No it's ur mom! LEL :D XD
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#10 - 2013-06-27 11:51:04 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
WE'RE BAD AND WE SHOULD FEEL BAD.


*hug*

turn that frown



upside










downs

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Mark Androcius
#11 - 2013-06-27 11:51:22 UTC
Sour Jelly wrote:
They paid 15$ to join an internet forum.

inb4 "I didn't pay"

Yeah right, I'm sure you paid twice to get a little picture for your avatar.

so sad.

But this isn't the only reason just part of it. What is the desire to join an internet forum like that? Where does it come from? I would posit it comes from a deep seated desire to be special. To be part of an exclusive club, an "in-crowd" and the community of SA reflects that. Indeed Goonswarm in EVE reflects this mentality, of elitism, false superiority, unabashed neckbeardism.

It's loathsome. I actually loath goons, as people. I very rarely run into them in real life, but when I do I loath them. That guy standing in line wearing sweatpants which aren't fully covering his butt, with his gut hanging out? Wearing a smug look of contempt upon his countenance? Yeah, that's a goon and I hate him.



I never paid anybody anything, this is basically only for the core members of the Goons, pretty sure the vast majority doesn't pay either.
Also, the superiority i was pointing out, is in the actual statistics, no alliance or coalition has ever held this much sov or has ever been this big.
They must be doing something right, cause they never would have been this big if they didn't.
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-06-27 11:52:02 UTC
Goons? What about them? They do their thing I do my thing and we play in the same sandbox. Nothing more to be said really. Arrow
Ma'Baker McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#13 - 2013-06-27 11:52:54 UTC
Sour Jelly wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:

No, that's a mirror


Oh, lel! No it's ur mom! LEL :D XD



WHUT YOO SAYIN ABOUT MUH!?


Ah dares y'all t'come ova here'n ree-peet them fitin' woids


*Cox Ma Shee-ought-gern*
Sour Jelly
#14 - 2013-06-27 11:54:14 UTC
I shouldn't have even posted that, it will give them the impression that someone cares. I mean there's truth obviously to what I wrote, but the reality is those kind of people are just lolcows you milk when you're bored
Mark Androcius
#15 - 2013-06-27 11:55:43 UTC
Sour Jelly wrote:
I shouldn't have even posted that, it will give them the impression that someone cares. I mean there's truth obviously to what I wrote, but the reality is those kind of people are just lolcows you milk when you're bored


While i do not agree with you, i must say, i do like your posting style.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-06-27 11:58:03 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Mark Androcius wrote:
So, I am basically looking for reasons why people hate the Goons.


Goons = Wal-Mart.

'nuff said.



Well, if my guesswork is not to far off, this war could be a very decisive one.
Looking at the numbers during the history of eve, i see many alliances who have or have had sov.
This number of alliances is slowly going down and is turning into bigger alliances holding more sov, in stead of many alliances holding little sov.

If TEST wins this war, they will become the biggest entity in eve, if Goons win, they will be the biggest.
Either of them winning, will result in a truly gigantic alliance/coalition, holding never before seen sov numbers.

So yes, in that regard, wal-mart makes sense, but it would count for both of them.


Each are blobs, and by how they move into a region and rip it apart and careless, they're Wal-Mart with all the socio-economic problems, too.

I favor neither side (I frankly careless of the silly politics in a game), but I dislike big block anything. Even in WoW I despise those 800 alt mega guilds -- that go nowhere but have all the players -- so forget raiding. Ugh

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2013-06-27 12:14:53 UTC
Sour Jelly wrote:
They paid 15$ to join an internet forum.

inb4 "I didn't pay"

Yeah right, I'm sure you paid twice to get a little picture for your avatar.

so sad.

But this isn't the only reason just part of it. What is the desire to join an internet forum like that? Where does it come from? I would posit it comes from a deep seated desire to be special. To be part of an exclusive club, an "in-crowd" and the community of SA reflects that. Indeed Goonswarm in EVE reflects this mentality, of elitism, false superiority, unabashed neckbeardism.

It's loathsome. I actually loath goons, as people. I very rarely run into them in real life, but when I do I loath them. That guy standing in line wearing sweatpants which aren't fully covering his butt, with his gut hanging out? Wearing a smug look of contempt upon his countenance? Yeah, that's a goon and I hate him.


Why would I pay tenbux to never post on a site that has nothing to do with EVE?
Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
#18 - 2013-06-27 12:16:24 UTC
I don't hate them. I don't like them. I don't care about them at all. I do occasionally feel pity about them when they appear to take themselves or the game too seriously, but that is not limited to Goons.

As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia

Adunh Slavy
#19 - 2013-06-27 12:19:29 UTC
CAOD

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#20 - 2013-06-27 12:32:09 UTC
I've never had direct dealings with any Goons, but I kinda like them because the typical Goon hater is a repulsive whinebear.

.

123Next pageLast page