Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Meh, without a few months of SP, highsec exploration is gonna be, by far, your best source of combat based income. Islands are admittedly better than trying to compete in more frequented areas though.

CCP just needs to have these types of posts on their front page. I'm sure it'll "sell" EvE very well.

Soon the NPCs will be other players, since they're but IsBoxing.

It's called, a "comfort zone".

They like it for what it is, and religiously guard it (much like they did in EQ/EQII with the raiders first mentality -- and look what happened to those games when dinosaurs are allowed to roam freely, too).

Want more in low/null it has to appeal to those otherwise not interested in the ganking tomfoolery. Folks who stay in high-sec are mostly in the trade and crafting professions to begin with. They build things and sell them that's their interest, not running after others to blow them up.

All the cat-calls and name calling that looks so junior high won't change it. What can is an incentive that works for those who build and sell...and not just make them cannon fodder (which is how PvP games are set up, and so much admitted to via Blizzard of late [everyone now has resilience to encourage more PvE players *cough* victims *cough* to play]).

Personally, I'd like to see build projects. Not only are they mat sinks, they encourage group participation, faction loyalty and yes some PvP on the side. Some build projects at the border lands where high-sec and low-sec meet, with incentives to build (e.g., cheaper taxes; more mats possible; etc, etc, that directly affects building and trade). That's the kind of stuff that encourages PvP, as it now relates to crafting and trade and not as some punishment -- honey works better than vinegar, ya know?

Very true. We in wormhole space, however, are warm, friendly, and inviting. Come visit us. We give cookies. And Hugs.

umm duh low is dangerous. I live there.

News flash - - - Low Sec is hostile to EVERYONE.

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How about using friends/allies to scout you through? They work too (sometimes even better than any alt). That's what I did when I was 6 months old and had just joined Faction Warfare.

Alternatively... find another route.
Once I learned that the Amamake-Osoggur gate was usually camped I started bringing ships in through the "back way." It took longer... but my ship almost always got by unmolested.

Alternatively to this... use different ships.
The chances of a cruiser getting through a well executed gatecamp are slim. But a nano'd frigate has significantly higher chances of getting through. Ships that specialize in cloaks shouldn't even have an issue getting though gate-camps in low-sec (my blockade runner laughs at them).

And even if I do get caught... I use their aggression against them. Burn back to gate and jump back through. If they are terrible (and your average low-sec gatecampers are) almost all of the will engage and won't be able to jump after you due to having aggression. If people do follow you through... use the gate spawn to your advantage and warp immediately before they can get in optimal gate tackle range.


Again... get friends and use different tactics.
I only have one account and I don't have an issue with gatecamps using said friends. Hell... the other character I have (on this same account) often brings Orcas into low-sec using small escorts (composed of a logi and a battlecruiser or two) or a single person in a cruiser that can web my ship into warp (requires only 5 seconds or so).


Or you could do what many of us low-sec dwellers have done and adapt rather than have the system itself changed. Really... that's it.

Obviously we who live in low-sec (with only single accounts) have proven that it is possible to avoid gatecamps, make a profit, and ultimately live full-time down there. What many of us wonder is; why can't YOU do it?

The only explanation(s) we can come up with (from our perspective) is that...

- there is a perception that there is nothing you can do despite all efforts (see: victim mentality). But a perception of something being wrong isn't the same as there being something actually wrong.
Now I won't say that it's EASY to live in low-sec... but it isn't as hard as some people make it out to be. Hell... just to prove my point... I solo mined a goddamn asteroid anomaly in an active Faction War area for nearly 2 hours tonight (with a half dozen unfriendly people coming and going in system). Not a single ship even popped in to have a look at me. Obviously I'm doing something horribly wrong here since no one took a shot at me.

- there is unwillingness to accept that you must take precautions and/or make sacrifices to ensure your own safety. Again, with the mining thing I did tonight; I used a Procurer that was fit for PvP. Its yield per minute was just basic and it had a small ore hold (which meant I had to make trips back and forth). Was I mining as efficiently as I could? Hardly. But what I gained was some security against random frigates and destroyers that I might encounter.

- there is an unwillingness to accept that there is risk in anything you do no matter how prepared you are and/or look at the long term. Again with the mining ship; if a cruiser popped in and tackled me, I would only be able to stall for time until support arrived. And even then I might still die. But I figured that if whoever killed me also died, they'd remember in the future that I have friends nearby and that their 30m+ cruiser is not really worth getting killed over a 16m+ barge that was originally (and obviously) designed as a trap.

Confirming that friends are OP.