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Sir Dragon

Einherjar Yggdrasils

Likes received: 87

#61 - 2013-06-26 15:40:53 UTC

So this would be an in-station VR (Virtual Reality) mechanic that 2 players would agree to walk into.

Absolutely brilliant lad :D

Yes, yes I can see it now.
An VR inside of an VR.
Yet that encapsulated VR would let you "pop" to a location, much like I achieved in WOW.
More over, that encapsulated VR would allow the pilot to "not lose all her/his 'gear' " .

But more importantly, implementing this idea into the 1st VR, would be like asking me to drink sulphuric acid.
So... I love the encapsulated VR idea.

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Robert Saint The Grumpy Dogs Likes received: 109	#62 - 2013-06-26 16:07:38 UTC \| Edited by: Robert Saint ....

Astroniomix

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Likes received: 881

#63 - 2013-06-26 16:15:28 UTC | Edited by: Astroniomix

Robert Saint wrote:

I would like to ask of all you who have posted, how many of you use your credit card to pay for your accounts, or do you just PLEX from the fake ISK earned in game. Are you supporting this game with real money or just using it and making demands.

You appear to be a bit uneducated in this regard, allow me to enlighten you.

Plex does not just appear on the market, someone had to buy it (or a GTC) with "real money" and then place it on the marked to be sold for isk. One PLEX is about $20 dollars, whereas a month of game time via credit card is $15 or less if you buy more than one month at a time.

So CCP actually makes more money from me plexing my account than they would if I used my own money.


Robert Saint The Grumpy Dogs Likes received: 109	#64 - 2013-06-26 16:19:17 UTC \| Edited by: Robert Saint ....

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Luc Chastot Likes received: 717	#65 - 2013-06-26 16:29:31 UTC 1. Know your fit and what it can do. 2. Choose targets wisely. 3. Use JCs to pvp. Get podded. You'll be back into your medical clone with no delay. 4. Stop trolling the forums. Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Ruze

Next Stage Initiative

Likes received: 523

#66 - 2013-06-26 16:40:34 UTC

Robert Saint wrote:

Astroniomix wrote:

Robert Saint wrote:

Wrong, if you don't pay with a CC or a Real Money transaction you aren't supporting this game. The person who bought the PLEX from Shattered Crystal or from CCP is paying for you to play this game.... you should thank them and have no voice other then "how may I help you"?

You're being very narrow in your definition there. Would that character have bought that plex and put it on the market if he had not received some benefit? He could have easily traded it in for a character makeover, or aurum. And since plex is no longer artificially 'seeded' by NPC's, it's come to a direct transfer.

Any player who uses Plex to establish an account for a month is using $20 or less in real life currency to do so. They may not have spent the money themselves, but that was the cost of the plex to be seeded in the game.

Any player who pays by subscription is paying $15 a month or less. You may be getting that subscription paid with a game time card bought by your parents or spouse as a present, or from your own credit card.

Either way, the plex method is actually inserting more cash into CCP's pockets than the monthly subscription.

If you're driven to threaten others with harm or violence because of what they do in game, you can't separate fantasy from reality. That "griefer/thief" is probably more sane than you are. How screwed up is that?

Warpshade

Warped Industries

Likes received: 80

#67 - 2013-06-26 16:43:45 UTC

"I don't want to switch to a jump clone just to PVP and wait a day to get my skill training advantage back again."

Firstly having to choose between your clones, is a choice you have imposed upon yourself, choice matters.

I'm against PvP Arenas because they detract and take potential new PvPers out of the existing environment. Currently in Eve if you want to PvP you have to go out into the vastness of Eve and find it. In other MMOs they often promote open world PvP, but you hardly find any because everyone is too busy Trolololing in Arenas.

Also there is also already places caitoring these needs; Corps like Red vs Blue albeit not in an Arena. There is also the Test centre available for such activity.


Robert Saint The Grumpy Dogs Likes received: 109	#68 - 2013-06-26 16:53:07 UTC \| Edited by: Robert Saint ....

Ruze

Next Stage Initiative

Likes received: 523

#69 - 2013-06-26 16:57:05 UTC

Robert Saint wrote:

Warpshade, thanks for the positive response... I understand that concern, but perhaps there is a reason people are all in the Arenas - and that's because they have a system that makes a player feel empowered or at least can see the light at the tunnel. They get to make friends, etc. .... I have a friend who plays WOW, but I can't stand the whole Fiery Thing... I want to blow stuff up, but I don't want a chess game that is so weighted in the favor of the gangs.. Someday in this game there may be enough incentive to venture in the current PVP areas, but nothing seems worth it as of now.

Again in regard to the Whole PLEX issue.... not saying that PLEX doesn't help CCP, as that is obvious.
I am saying that "YOU" as the player who only uses PLEX that you bought with in game ISK and didn't use YOUR own money to buy... YOU are a sucker fish, living off those who actually believe in the game and are paying CCP salaries... like your parents paying for your education..... give back and start to either BUY PLEX from CCP with Real Money or Through Down YOUR credit card and pay a monthly subscription to these software programmers who are making the game you so passionately defend.... if you aren't shelling out REAL MONEY.... keep quiet!

So if your really feeling so helpful, why don't you buy plex to pay for your subscription each month instead?

I subscribe my accounts on three month intervals, myself, but I find the logic your using here to justify that those who play and plex their accounts are somehow second-class citizens to those who pay subscriptions (even though, as I've pointed out with the math, the plex users are causing more income for CCP than the subs), as another reason why your opinions, based on such obvious bias and single-mindedness, is no more valid than the hateful players who wish to make you leave the game.


Robert Saint The Grumpy Dogs Likes received: 109	#70 - 2013-06-26 17:05:27 UTC \| Edited by: Robert Saint ....

Danika Princip

GoonWaffe

Goonswarm Federation

Likes received: 5,563

#71 - 2013-06-26 17:07:59 UTC

Robert Saint wrote:

Warpshade, thanks for the positive response... I understand that concern, but perhaps there is a reason people are all in the Arenas - and that's because they have a system that makes a player feel empowered or at least can see the light at the tunnel. They get to make friends, etc. .... I have a friend who plays WOW, but I can't stand the whole Fiery Thing... I want to blow stuff up, but I don't want a chess game that is so weighted in the favor of the gangs.. Someday in this game there may be enough incentive to venture in the current PVP areas, but nothing seems worth it as of now.

Again in regard to the Whole PLEX issue.... not saying that PLEX doesn't help CCP, as that is obvious.
I am saying that "YOU" as the player who only uses PLEX that you bought with in game ISK and didn't use YOUR own money to buy... YOU are a sucker fish every month you play (every update, every idea you bag on), living off those who actually believe in the game and are paying CCP salaries... like your parents paying for your education..... give back and start to either BUY PLEX from CCP with Real Money or Throw Down YOUR credit card and pay a monthly subscription to these software programmers who are making the game you so passionately defend.... if you aren't shelling out REAL MONEY.... keep quiet!

You do know that CCP receive more money per PLEX than they do per sub, right?


Robert Saint The Grumpy Dogs Likes received: 109	#72 - 2013-06-26 17:12:55 UTC \| Edited by: Robert Saint ....

Astroniomix

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Likes received: 881

#73 - 2013-06-26 17:13:59 UTC

Robert Saint wrote:

I am talking about a voice, not a "free to play" playing option.

I pay with credit card every three months on my 4 main accounts. I pay this way because it's a good deal, but I do pay with real money.

Each player knows if they are paying real money (Plex or CC) and if they are paying CCP on their own they are entitled to speak about what the game is or isn't.

People who continue to "Play" for FREE should have NO VOICE (or at best a second class voice just to quiet them)..... concerning business decisions of this game.

You know who you are.

And now we are back to biomassing yourself.

paritybit

Solarmark

Likes received: 270

#74 - 2013-06-26 17:34:57 UTC

You're going to have to let the PLEX thing go if you actually want people to listen to what you are trying to say.

First, a lot of PVPers buy PLEX and put them on the market so they can continue to afford (in-game) to PVP. And the people who are against your suggestion are primarily PVPers.

Second, if there was no in-game market for PLEX (or if it was weak), nobody would buy them with real currency to turn them into ISK. So you could argue that players willing to spend a lot of ISK on a PLEX are driving the real-world money sales of PLEX. And since PLEX are more expensive than a standard subscription, you'd probably realize that players who purchase PLEX with ISK are driving real-world money transactions.

In any case, if you continue to respond to trolling with counter-trolling you're just going to attract more trolls and any real idea will die out. You can see it happening in the last pages.

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Jeanne-Luise Argenau Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 153	#75 - 2013-06-26 17:47:17 UTC -1 i didnt read all the posts before me, but i dont think your ideas will work. A PVP-Arena so could be viable for player driven pvp tournament. Means a player can rent the arena for a duel or a tournament, put down the rules (like ATXI) and then let team one and team two enter for fights.

Chronic Storm

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

Likes received: 0

#76 - 2013-06-26 18:01:01 UTC

First off you seem hard headed and as for players telling you to go to another game I agree on the point that if you don't like this one then why play it.

Second have you ever heard of economics? Yes a player buys a plex so they are the ones giving money to CCP but without the demad from players plexing their accounts there would be no demand for plex, so would said player have bought the plex in the first place. As it seems both the player buying the plex in RL money and the one with isk are supporting CCP. End of that discussion.

Last why do people always play games and they don't like everything about it and want to change it, EVE has been around for a DECADE and it seems that the majority here doesn't agree with you. You seen that and your hard headedness wants to change their mind to be on your side, sorry this is EVE not going to happen. Go make some in game friends (not likely to happen from you being hard headed) and play the game and have fun.

Go gank a miner it will make you feel better Pirate

Chronic Storm

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

Likes received: 0

#77 - 2013-06-26 18:19:24 UTC

The one thing I think they should change with the game is a docking time. Put a timer on how long you can be docked and if you go over (x) time you are either fined or undockrd if fine is unpaid. That would inturn put more people in space and more chances for pvp.

Not the best of ideas I know but you see people just sit in a station and never undock (yea I know some are playing the market just have them buy a pass for so much time)

^ I think this is a better idea then the OP had

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Akrasjel Lanate Immemorial Coalescence Administration Immemorial Coalescence Likes received: 2,007	#78 - 2013-06-26 18:44:46 UTC Hell no CEO of Lanate Industries Citizen of Solitude

Jason Amelana

Ascendance

Goonswarm Federation

Likes received: 11

#79 - 2013-06-26 19:14:56 UTC

Astroniomix wrote:

Robert Saint wrote:

And now we are back to biomassing yourself.

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So Stupid

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Omnathious Deninard University of Caille Gallente Federation Likes received: 3,623	#80 - 2013-06-26 19:17:41 UTC Wow, you seriously went through and deleted all of your posts? it is far easier to report your thread and ask for it to be locked. If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.