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Dev Blog: New system requirements for EVE

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Jed Clampett
Doomheim
#201 - 2013-06-25 05:52:00 UTC
Its already quite apparent that dual core 3.0Ghz 8 GB RAM is insufficient for anything but docked use. Simple commands alone in POS and ore sites of wh are delayed by 2-6 seconds and forces CPU to 85% with fat wide spikes to 100% . Radeon 4600 still looks good but probably contributes to lag.

So get real. Quad core 3.4GHz 16GB and 128GB semiconductor drive is probably practical minimum for actual play. If you aren't paying $150 for discounted graphic card you are gonna suffer. On the other hand $300-$500 for low end premium cards is still probably a waste if you think it won't need replacing in 1-2 years of EVE development.



Red Rydah
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#202 - 2013-06-26 02:00:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Red Rydah
CCP Vertex wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The only thing that concerns me is the graphics card. I run EVE on a laptop and just don't have the money to buy a proper PC, and under "Graphics Devices" it says I have "Intel(R) HD Graphics". This is running EVE just fine at the moment, but will this change? Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to 'rage quit', but if my machine can't run it then I just simply can't play it. As an underpaid university student atm, buying any new hardware is simply not an option for at least another 12 months.
We are not planning now any changes that will make currently usable hardware unusable. We are setting a baseline for the future.


So, if you can fly it now, you can fly it after the requirements change, right? :)

Not that that simple explanation made it any easier for the short bus crowd last time around...


Correct Smile


*whew*

My computer will be 4 years old this August, but at least the slotted NVIDIA GTX285 still keeps it around the midpoint between the minimum and recommended specs. At least that gives me some breathing room to save up for a new computer.

(time to consider if I really need that daily shot of Tim Horton's coffee and use the money instead for a Red Rydah Computer Fund)

RR



(edit: Tim Horton's reference)
June Cartier
Icarus BioTech and Research
#203 - 2013-06-26 10:53:17 UTC
I bought a new gaming rig a few weeks ago (Windows 8) and since then the client freezes very frequently (time range varies between laoding screen to a couple hours) and when it happens I can't close it with task manager or just crashing with me having to reboot my pc. I never had problems like this on my 5 year old vista laptop.

Now I'm am wondering will the (by now known) problems with windows 8 be fixed by that time? Or will we have to wait for an undefined amount of time before we can play decently again?
Peter Tjordenskiold
#204 - 2013-06-26 12:29:55 UTC
It would be nice to have a high performance mode in the near future too, because I'm mostly playing in blobs and experiencing an advantage when it comes to a session change, when the grid data is downloaded., since I have a i7 CPU . For many 0.0 players it is more important to be able to be able to react in time than the magic of graphics. But the time for desktop pc is stagnating and performant laptops are twice as expensive than desktop PCs.
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#205 - 2013-06-26 14:12:55 UTC
Yet another reason to upgrade my ageing gaming rig. Pleased that eve is moving forward, sad that my system will no longer meet the recommended system requirements.

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.

Talia Araceli
Nuts and Vindictive
#206 - 2013-06-30 18:25:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Talia Araceli
Go ahead and up the system requirements some more. I want more shineys and I could always use an excuse to upgrade.

Although i was surprised to see my Geforce GTX 460 to be below the recommended specs, I will live ^^
Medeea Ghost
Nemaca
#207 - 2013-06-30 19:52:15 UTC
i5 ivy @ 4.5GHz 24/7, 5,5GHz delided version, 5GHz normal OC.
6850 Toxic OC edition
fiber internet
SCSI hdd
8Gb RAM

Will I be able to play one client medium settings?!? :))) Oh wait, I normally play on low settings. When I wanna stare at ships, I pump full settings ON (once per... month... maybe).

No, but seriously, when I see games putting an i7 processor on their list, I can't stop myself laughing. Yes, people are stupid, yes they will buy the i7, but still, it's laughable.

All those said, I am glad EvE is getting prettier. Maybe I will finally have a reason to get a new monitor.
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#208 - 2013-07-01 06:27:25 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Sarmatiko wrote:
We need more radical changes.
Lose Windows XP support, for great justice! Roll
Windows XP is still used by a significant portion of EVE players and I would expect it to possibly take up to two years still for them all to upgrade based on current trends.

SO noted. My alt machine runs XP on a dual core 3 Gig CPU with 4 Gigs RAM and the motherboard graphics card.

Yes - there are still XP users who don't want to have to upgrade just yet !
Starbud Paul
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#209 - 2013-07-06 11:34:52 UTC
I would like to emphasize that this change now in minimum and recommended system requirements will not exclude any current hardware compared to the previous system requirements. In particular we are not making any changes on 10 July to the EVE Client that will prevent you from using your current computers.

With the new system requirements we are creating a baseline for the future. You can still try and run the game with unsupported hardware, we just can't guarantee a good experience. Using supported hardware we will be able to detail what you should be able to expect.


Ok So How Dose CCp stand on thsi

When u launched this game product ! That we pay for! FYI

A service that as a componey when u launched and started a monthly subscription it was suported by the pentium seriese mother boards

As we pay for this product imop this move will eventuly as u say do away with this and make the product unatainible in future to older pc
Their are still many pilots who dont run dule core and still have the pentium series and are all ready near toiling to run this product as it is.

now this ?

ccp actions here seem very immoral and inconiderate considering this product should always have the ability to run this game no matter what advances .
The specs that when u first began to sell this game as a product "im sure theirs a consumer law in their some place"

ccp have to keep this product avalible to its original game specs when sold


LONG LIVE THE PENTIUM 4

David North
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#210 - 2013-07-07 03:15:03 UTC
It seems like some people are starting to panic.

Your system will still work. Wait till it stops working to start complaining about it.
Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
#211 - 2013-07-07 17:30:48 UTC
I'm not entirely computer illiterate, but I don't perform surgery on my system too often so this news had me worried for a while. But as luck would have it, my trusty Nvidia Geforce 210 died recently when its little fan stopped turning and I realized it was running at 215 degrees (maybe it was all those jump animations haha.) So I came here and re-read the specs and I've gotta admit, it was all Greek to me. I need a quad core somethinganother and a really expensive graphics card I couldn't afford. I think my computer has a dual core 3.0 Ghz thingamajiggy.

So screw all that. I decided to just run out to Best Buy and bought what was on sale. That's how I roll. I added 8 Gb system RAM (bringing that total from 4Gb to 12Gb) and replaced my former 500Mb video ram Nvidia 210 with a Geforce GT 640 (2 Gb video RAM) (it was on sale for like 100 bucks.) So tldr: I tripled my system RAM and quadrupled my video RAM for about 150 dollars.

The results have been game changing. Prior to the switch, I ran 2 EVE clients in windowed mode, where they occupy about 3/4 of a 50" flat screen tv and on the other 1/4 I usually run wmp, winamp, EVE radio, etc. Performance was an issue. If both EVE clients were maximized simultaneously, the mouse would stagger around and wmp couldn't even produce a picture. So my routine was to pause whatever I was watching when I was in a nebula or docked in a station because of the increased graphics load. Things played half-a** in space. Since you're usually in space anyway it really wasn't an issue. Even so, some video files still performed better than others. About half of my avi collection was unusable in this way.

Now, everything works. Zero lag. I can maximize both clients, let a film play whilst in station, etc. I even tried to max the thing out by starting up other programs like Diablo 3 with the 2 EVE clients and it did that too. So considering that I have no idea if I managed to move myself above the minimum system requirements, I'm pretty impressed with the performance increase anyway. I see a lot of whining and complaining in here about leet system requirements but I think I did OK and it only took 150 dollars and about an hour out of my day.

YK
Ya'aal Mathafaquaz
#212 - 2013-07-07 19:42:19 UTC
I am disappoint, because my toaster won't let me multibox the new specs.
Galen Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#213 - 2013-07-09 14:31:03 UTC
RoAnnon wrote:
Rees Noturana wrote:
Unfortunately, my computer budget went into my son's new gaming rig. EVE sure does run sweet on that thing...


I'm sorry to hear that. My philosophy is: If my son is old enough to play the kinds of games that require a "gaming rig" he's old enough to get a job and pay for it himself... :)

Yeah. What's that parable about teaching men to fish?Cool

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Galen Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#214 - 2013-07-09 14:48:43 UTC
Nak hak wrote:

Honestly giving less than 30 days notice on a requirement change comes across as unprofessional. For anyone but a small game developer.

You - and others - make it sound like any computer that does not meet the new minimum recommended specs will cease to run Eve on July 10. CCP Explorer has repeatedly told you that is not the case. Perhaps you should listen to him.

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Galen Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#215 - 2013-07-09 14:53:42 UTC
David North wrote:
It seems like some people are starting to panic.

Your system will still work. Wait till it stops working to start complaining about it.

Where's the fun in that?Lol

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