Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Sounds like cloaking and local is already balanced then. If to change one puts them out of balance then doesnt that mean they are in balance. We don't want CCP to rebalance something in balance...

The truth is you never know which 5 minutes out of the 23 hours is there a full gang on a titan - even with cap backup. So the beautiful advices of being 'careful' don't really apply, the advantage is with the cloaker, they engage when they're sure.
And I never understood the phobia with local - I assume people just like to troll, I really don't believe people would actually prefer to press d-scan 5000 times in a 4-5 hour gaming session just to farm a half ship's worth of isk one can loose several times in that time frame (not that d-scan actually helps against cyno anyway).
Afk camping is not ok. Maybe local isn't ok, but with current game mechanics I don't know what would people do without it. For the same reason I never understood people living in wormholes either, do people use bots to prevent tendinitis from clicking dscan or they just do whatever they do and lose average of 5 ships every day?

I recently joined a wh corp. There is no local. Sometimes people are in our system cloaked. One time, I was doing PI on an alt and I got pointed by a neut in a cov ops frig. You want to know what I did? I let my corp mates know what was happening, where it was happening, and who was doing it. You know what they did? They helped me. My hauler survived the ordeal. It was super awesome. True story.

Why just the other day I nearly destroyed all of Eve with my cloaking device.

And this is where the arguement falls apart because the premise is incorrect. Your gameplay does not change when someone enters a system and afks. Everything you can do in an empty system can be done with an afker in system. If you as a player make a decision to not play in that system, that is your decision. No one has ruined your gameplay. You simply decided to concede possession of that system.

This is how EvE works. You fight for things or you lose things. You take risks when you want rewards. If you don't like it, EvE is not the game for you.

This is mostly true.

If one watch in all these null-bears continuos whines will see as they're basically the same kind of requests, gameplay approach and mindset from high-sec carebears; null-bears are only mor noisy. But, yes, actually the major null-sec alliances are just the major carebears organizations ever seen in EVE. Not that everyone in there is so, but that's the setup.

Is a process developed in the last years, the milestone of it was Dominion expansion that basically shaped and finalized this.

making billions a day in a single covert ops frigate in deep hostile space even with actual hostiles in local, just out of boredom and because I can, while not giving a slightest f*ck about whether these hostile cloakers/non-cloakers are afk or not.
See, you dont need a perfectly safe environment to earm money and play the game. Learn to adapt.

Agreed

They now want it to point out where the cloaked vessel can be found.

Perhaps next they will want it to be done for them, so they are not bothered by such annoying details.

In the following update, they will be informed by email they no longer need to log in for the purpose of generating ISK, they have in fact won the game, and may now do more interesting things than stare at non blue names in local chat.